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Why write this post?
A lot of people are starting to get interested in IO. I don't think Octopus do a very good job of spelling out the benefits in their website. They have some FAQs, but the same questions keep coming up over and over on the forums.

What is it?
In a nutshell, IO is a split tariff that gives you a cheap off-peak rate for charging your EV and other electrical items in the household, including home batteries.

Isn’t that the same as Octopus Go or Go Faster?
The principle is the same, but in exchange for some benefits which we’ll explain, you allow Octopus to control the timing of your EV charge, so they can choose low carbon intensity and/or cheap wholesale priced time slots.

So I’m not in control of my charge? I don’t like the sound of that!
Well yes…and no. You’re in control of how much to charge and when you want the car to be ready, just like you would be normally. Within those parameters, you’re allowing Octopus to control which half-hour slots the car chooses to get to that target % charge. And you can always override IO if you want to “bump charge” through the day.

OK, but what are the benefits you mentioned for this trade off?
First of all, you get a larger guaranteed off-peak window for using household appliances and charging home batteries, etc. It’s six hours between 23:30-05:30. Go, for example, is a fixed 4 hour window.
In addition, when IO schedules your EV charging slots it sometimes creates schedules that fall outside of the fixed, six hour window. If that happens your EV charging and all your household use in these extra-slots is also charged at off-peak rates.
I have frequently had schedules give me seven or more hours of off-peak rates. On one occasion, I had a total of ten hours of off-peak rates.

Am I eligible?
You need a smart meter and a compatible car and/or charger. Since you’re reading this here, I assume you’ve got or are thinking of getting a Tesla. IO works with the Tesla API to create the charging schedules. The advantage of this is that IO will work with any* home charger. If you have a charger with smart features, you need to disable them so that the charger acts as a dumb switch. IO will control everything via Tesla’s API to start and stop your charging.
*Even your granny charger - but you need to tell IO what the max throughput is when you go through setup so that it can work out your schedules properly.

Some of this sounds too good to be true.
Phantom drain caused by having smart charging enabled in the Octopus app has been fixed as of 30th August 2022. One small side effect appears to be that schedules sometimes take longer to appear in the app after plugging in.

Further questions (to be updated in the main thread body once the edit timer on this post expires)

I have two EVs, can I charge the other while on IO?

Not with IO scheduling the charging, but you can charge any other car in the fixed 23:30-05:30 off peak window or at any other time at peak prices.

What are the rates etc?
Octopus do a decent job of explaining the peak and off-peak rates along with contracts etc. Head over to their pages to discover that.

I asked for a target % of x, but I got less than x.
There are two or three reasons for this.

The first, most common reason, is that Tesla reports battery % differently depending on where you look. The API (that IO uses) reports the gross battery %. This is generally fixed but can fluctuate very slightly. The Tesla app shows usable %. Apps like Teslamate and Teslafi can display both. Quite often, there is a delta of 2-3% which may be down to battery temp or other factors. This usable % will often be recovered as the battery warms up during a drive.

Some users have reported charging % being way off, perhaps 10% or more. This could be down to an error in the onboarding process. Some of the charger database entries incorrectly assume the charger you are onboarding is the 11kW version, without actually saying so in the charger description. The Andersen A2 was an early example of this. If you suspect this may be the case, the easiest thing to do is go through the on-boarding again and choose "Generic 7.4kW charger". It won't affect your functionality on IO in any way.

Lastly, it has to be mentioned that occasionally IO just craps out. It may be down to a comms error, a server error at Octopus' end, or just reasons. IO is a beta product and it's wise to expect one or two quirks from time to time
 
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It doesn't though.
Neither happens.
It's a small bug. Sometimes IO will create a schedule, then realise it isn't geocached to home and immediately delete the schedule (check your app to confirm).
It's not supposed to but it has already been mentioned several times by others that IO has stopped people's charging outside of their home, it also happened to me before as well stopped the charge at a supercharger and gave me a schedule in the app for the night time, so it HAS done this in the past regardless of what its supposed to do and not do.

Yes this happened recently to me on a couple of occasions.

I think you need to turn IO to off when you are about to charge elsewhere. Not a problem if charging elsewhere is just occasional, but again something that you need to remember! I was thinking geolocation is in play for IO but it seems that it is not!
It's happened to me as well. Octopus are investigating, It would help them if you email them with where and when it happened.

It doesn't always stop charging. Sometimes it just gives me a schedule.
Yeah, switched Smart Charge off as soon as I departed home. Don’t want IO incorrectly ending any charges or keeping my car awake trying to poll it.
Yes there is no reason to keep it on if you are away with the potential for it to interfere with the car charging which it has done for me before.

Ugh have they got worse? It always seemed to take about 7 days for an email reply for me. I've got a query in now (they buggered up the FIT when they moved it from bulb) but it's only been 3 days so far..

Still, there's always phone as a last resort..
1 reply a week usually missing the point of the email and then only doing half of what they say so takes another week for a reply
 
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Hopefully this will help reduce the inflation figures if all the other suppliers are following their lead
Well, the core inflation rate excludes fuel and food. And that one is pretty high as well (I think a bit over 6%) so I suspect this will have limited impact. Certainly in the short term.
And then, of course, there is winter. I fear this may be a short lived breathing space :/
 
It's not supposed to but it has already been mentioned several times by others that IO has stopped people's charging outside of their home, it also happened to me before as well stopped the charge at a supercharger and gave me a schedule in the app for the night time, so it HAS done this in the past regardless of what its supposed to do and not do.
There are plenty of phantom charge schedules that have been reported. But they disappear almost immediately. I've not seen a single reported instance of charging stopping outside the home reported on this thread or on the Octopus forums, on a supercharger or otherwise.
 
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I'm calling bullshit here. There are plenty of phantom charge schedules that have been reported. But they disappear almost immediately. I've not seen a single reported instance of charging stopping outside the home reported on this thread or on the Octopus forums, on a supercharger or otherwise.
Ok, despite me having just quoted 2 people in the reply who had this happen and have the logs that show the charging stops, it clearly is a rare occurrence and doesn't stop the charge every time but it has happened before.
 
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Oh dear, I’ll have to put up with the high rates until 1 July 2023. 😁
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