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After an inquiry, certain recommendations should be made to ensure that similar incidents can never occur again. I can think of a few for starters:
1. Tractor trailers should not be painted white but rather a colour that is quite different and stands out from the environment;
2. Tractor trailers should have something hanging from their sides so as to either engage the sensors on cars or to prevent cars from wedging beneath them without the car crushing and activating the airbag;
3. Tractor trailers should be fitted with radar beacons which all cruise control raiders can detect;
I'll decide what functions are of purpose to me, thanks. As a parallel, I could tell you that the MS's jump seats are a stupid option, but you might have 5 kids.May I add, that we are talking of AP, a non-essential and unproven feature at this point? We need cars, even if with some flaws, as they are essential for transportation. but AP is not something that serves a big purpose at this time.
Unless AP can safely handle with no injuries to you the very familiar scenario that we all encounter everyday: a drunk driver barreling down on the wrong side of the freeway, straight at you head on at 80 mph - it should not be released by Tesla.
There you go, I said it.
Reflector patches in the trailer corners would be a start. I've seen these in use around these parts.That will take a while since white is the most popular trailer color. The US has about 15 million tractor trailers on the roads
Reflector strips are required....this could be something Tesla could train autopilot to look for?Reflector patches in the trailer corners would be a start. I've seen these in use around these parts.
Are there any pictures of the tractor trailer ? I have not seen...
Fair enough. What if there were 10 fatalities related to AP use as it is today but it could be shown that had AP not existed in its current form that there would have been 25 fatalities in that same time period/miles driven, does your opinion change?
Mike
Yes, and we must also eliminate parachute recovery systems on light aircraft because one might deploy in such a way as to descend in a heavily populated area, injuring of killing someone.Wow, ok here is your approach: In some cases seat belts cause a death when a person would have been thrown clear. Let's get rid of seat belts till they are perfect. The same goes for air bags. Oh yeah, there are cases where antilock brakes stop in a longer distance than regular brakes. Let's get rid of those too.
Wow, have you even read the other posts? This is about automatic emergency braking. Many cars have this. Some may be better than Tesla but many aren't. AEB helps in a lot of situations and when it doesn't help at least it doesn't hurt. Why single Tesla out?
Judging by 5 dislikes, looks like I was too subtle on my sarcasm.
Instead of saying it is stupid and silly to look for all edge cases to be solved before anything resembling drivers assistance is released, I took the sarcasm route.
Ok, I've tried to give you the benefit of the doubt but what is your agenda? Are you a short? Do you have a Tesla hatred? "Obviously"- real? You are making a huge assumption as to how Tesla views their system. You seem bent on slamming Tesla when others have lane keep assist. You seem to ignore that we have no idea yet if lane keep assist even had anything to do with this accident. The trucker said the car changed lanes. That would mean a drive run control.
I went through thousands of posts on the suspension thread and noticed recent members with posts only slamming Tesla.
A lot of cars have driver assist features. Overall they either improve driver comfort or safety and, in general do both. They are not perfect. They are getting better. Having had a driver fail to stay in his lane and, as a result, hit me I wish everyone on the connector in Atlanta had lane keep assist as good as Tesla has.
This reminds me of something that happened to me. I was driving along a rural road at about 100kmh. I approached a railway crossing (in rural Australia many crossing have no lights or crossing arms) and saw a freight train parked 60 meters away perpendicular to the road with a nearby rail maintenance 4wd ute. I thought "Ok its broken down and stopped and far enough away" that I am fine to whizz across the crossing.
Little did I know it wasnt actually stopped at all and was crawling at a very slow rate - probably due to engine problems. From my angle perpindicular to it and the high speed I was doing, coupled with how big the train is and how slow it was moving - I simply loss complete visual perspective of how much it was moving and that it was going to intersect me at the crossing. When I realised it was far too late to brake and so I gunned the accelerator but I missed it by mere meters (but felt like feet).
When in doubt I stick aJudging by 5 dislikes, looks like I was too subtle on my sarcasm.
Instead of saying it is stupid and silly to look for all edge cases to be solved before anything resembling drivers assistance is released, I took the sarcasm route.
Enjoy your AP, but pay attention when you using it. It is very fortunate that there is only one victim of this incident. Hopefully there will be no more victims of still not perfect system. IMHO victim still will be alive if he will pay attention to the road, I do not want to be killed or injured by not yet 100% safe system, please be considerate to others using road.This is a rough statistical observation judging from the comments on this thread.
On the people owning S and enjoying AP, a good 90% of them love it and consider this incident as an edge case that a moderate attention to the road is enough.
90% of the folks who complain Tesla's AP is a death machine neither own one or even driven for any reasonable length of time (5 minute test drives don't count).
That tells you everything you need to know.
Enjoy your AP, but pay attention when you using it. It is very fortunate that there is only one victim of this incident. Hopefully there will be no more victims of still not perfect system. IMHO victim still will be alive if he will pay attention to the road, I do not want to be killed or injured by not yet 100% safe system, please be considerate to others using road.
I interpreted "stop across the road" to mean stopped blocking the road, however realised you might have meant "stopped not long after crossing road" - apologies if I misunderstood.
Yes, and we must also eliminate parachute recovery systems on light aircraft because one might deploy in such a way as to descend in a heavily populated area, injuring of killing someone.
Every technological advance produces some negative consequences but the end of most of them is positive.