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2) You do not lose 5% per day. I defy anyone to show logs demonstrating that. I've had 10 months and 9k miles of experience now, and it just ain't that much. More like 2 or 3%, and as I understand it, car shuts down all usage if you hit the reserve.

Can you tell me how I access the "logs" on my MS? I would love to be able to check the logs. I just don't know how to check my logs. I did not know it was possible.

Thanks in advance.
 
telemetry data

I have about six weeks of telemetry data that show that I lose on average 3kWh a day - with a 60kWh battery that comes out to about 5% a day.


Can you show me how to get the telemetry data? I would love to do it with my Model S

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He is creating his own logs using the teslams tools that people have created using REST.

Too bad. I thought there was a method that I could use.

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3/60 = 5%

3/85 = 3.5%

So everybody is correct.

Whenever I hear someone use percentages, I know there is possible obfuscation.

When any data is reported, the exclusive use of percentages is a terrible way.

Absolute and relative both need to be reported.

Absolute is 3 kW

Relative is percentage. 5% for a 60 kW pack, 3.5% for a 85 kW pack.

One without the other is meaningless.
 
Mine came with two interesting Charge History entries: One at the Fremont factory and another at the Palo Alto office. I wonder if my "burn-in" included a side trip over there?

The default location for the car's software is the Deer Creek Rd. address in Palo Alto. For the first month, since my car's GPS antenna was faulty on delivery, my car was sitting at Tesla HQ, no matter where I drove. :)

So when it gets initially charged at the factory, it registers that address, then when it gets its first GPS signal, it snaps to Fremont.
 
The default location for the car's software is the Deer Creek Rd. address in Palo Alto. For the first month, since my car's GPS antenna was faulty on delivery, my car was sitting at Tesla HQ, no matter where I drove. :)

So when it gets initially charged at the factory, it registers that address, then when it gets its first GPS signal, it snaps to Fremont.

Interesting. I wonder if any of these cars actually did charge in the HQ parking lot. There are a lot of chargers there and at times the parking lot appears to have a handful of brand new MS sitting side by side.
 
Interesting. I wonder if any of these cars actually did charge in the HQ parking lot. There are a lot of chargers there and at times the parking lot appears to have a handful of brand new MS sitting side by side.

Wouldn't they have to charge up the cars that are about to go out for delivery? It can take days for the transport to reach it's customer so they would want to fill up enough that several days of vampire drain doesn't leave the car too low at delivery. [edit: sorry 5.0 thread, no vampires anymore]

I did a factory pickup so I have an HQ charge history from my delivery specialist doing the "demo" of how to charge in the delivery area. I still remember him asking if it was ok if he used my car to show another customer how to charge so perhaps thats another way that an extra Fremont charge gets into the history logs.
 
Wouldn't they have to charge up the cars that are about to go out for delivery? It can take days for the transport to reach it's customer so they would want to fill up enough that several days of vampire drain doesn't leave the car too low at delivery. [edit: sorry 5.0 thread, no vampires anymore].

Sure, but why wouldn't they just charge at the factory rather than HQ? Anyway, back to 5.0. What is the over/under for the general rollout of the update? September 30?
 
Anyway, back to 5.0. What is the over/under for the general rollout of the update? September 30?

Crossing my fingers for next week, but at this point I'm not holding my breath. I guess I was right regarding the timing of the rollout when I posted way back when:

apacheguy said:
Sure wish they could be somewhat more specific. In "Tesla language" summer could mean anytime between now and early October.
 
Sure, but why wouldn't they just charge at the factory rather than HQ? Anyway, back to 5.0. What is the over/under for the general rollout of the update? September 30?

Sorry, I read "HQ" and miscomprehended it as "Factory" not Palo Alto. Nevermind.

but back to 5.0..

I see enough complaints on the TM forum about GPS and navigation being off with 5.0 cars that I can't see them rolling it out to a wider set of cars without fixing this first. I think that takes us past the autumnal equinox (which is Sept 22nd this year).
 
I see enough complaints on the TM forum about GPS and navigation being off with 5.0 cars that I can't see them rolling it out to a wider set of cars without fixing this first. I think that takes us past the autumnal equinox (which is Sept 22nd this year).

This post over on the TM forum makes it seem as though it is a hardware calibration issue and NOT an issue with 5.0:

MarioA said:
I've checked recently and from what I've been told this issue is a very high priority for the engineers right now but there is not as of yet a way to fix it remotely through software. Supposedly if you bring the car into a service center they can do the fix in person by some sort of recalibration.

So I guess that's good news regarding the software side of things, but then I wonder what else is holding up the rollout.
 
This post over on the TM forum makes it seem as though it is a hardware calibration issue and NOT an issue with 5.0:



So I guess that's good news regarding the software side of things, but then I wonder what else is holding up the rollout.

Rollout hold up: Trying to give people option of low vampire drain and quicker start up.
 
I haven't had location problems with 5.0 yet.

Which further confirms my suspicions that it is soley a hardware problem so there is no foreseeable risk to Tesla by pushing out 5.0 now.

Regarding trying to give people the option of faster wake up times, why not just make sleep mode an option? Same thing they did in 4.0 and 4.1 so it shouldn't be too hard to accomplish. I'll just take sleep mode now as it is and if they're able to improve wake up times in a future release that's great, but IMO this shouldn't be a show stopper.
 
Agreed. Would love not to be wasting ~2.5kWh a day!

Which further confirms my suspicions that it is soley a hardware problem so there is no foreseeable risk to Tesla by pushing out 5.0 now.

Regarding trying to give people the option of faster wake up times, why not just make sleep mode an option? Same thing they did in 4.0 and 4.1 so it shouldn't be too hard to accomplish. I'll just take sleep mode now as it is and if they're able to improve wake up times in a future release that's great, but IMO this shouldn't be a show stopper.