Given that those of us (foolish enough) to have paid for FSD will be getting the 3.0 hardware upgrade, we should be able to get cameras at a later stage if it were just video encoding that is required. However, I think the extra colour channel is the real showstopper.
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Firmware 9 in August will start rolling out full self-driving features!!!
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Well folks, I tried my best and left for Europe for ten days (a sacrifice for this group), but the update didn’t arrive while I was gone. My guess is that Tesla read my post and did not want to ruin my vacation.
Thanks Tesla. Now give me my 9.0!
But it isn't a CPU. It's a 384 core GPU that can trivially do H.264 over in a.corner.
Only if it has dedicated H.264 modules in addition to those cores, or the cores are not already fully utilized running the NNs for AP so that there are a few cores to spare for compression. We already know that HW2 has an underpowered GPU and they have struggled to get the NN model small enough to work on it, so I would be surprised if they had cores to spare.
Barklikeadog
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pardon my ignorance and unwillingness to read the previous 60 pages... did full self driving features come out in august(or after) as promised??
anyone have a summary of the new features?
anyone have a summary of the new features?
Theflash95
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No, no FSD features are out. Right now they are still working on delivering EAP features.
Oh man, that's rich... made my day right there... FSD features in August -- you do mean August 2021, right?
Sorry, couldn't resist. The new feature in v9 is an EAP feature, an incremental development toward On-Ramp to Off-Ramp, which is EAP. V9 will suggest lane changes required to pass slow traffic or get in the correct lane to take an exit, based on your navigation destination/route. The driver must confirm the lane change before it is executed.
But the biggest new feature by far is that they are finally using the side repeater cameras to do blind spot monitoring. That is really the only thing in V9 worth being happy about IMO. (But we'll see how reliable it is...)
So, did Tesla lie to us? Because this is how they referred to HW 2.5:
Tesla claims HW2.5 doesn't have additional compute, nor a different processor. Just more redundancy. What's your evidence that 2.5 has more power?
However, we know it has better cameras if you care about color....
Also, from here:
So, where is the dedicated H.264 encoder you mention?
Most GPUs by Nvidia in tthis timeframe have one, so the odds aren't all that bad, actually.
Evil Twin
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I think I misunderstood your original post. I don't know of any H.264 encoder, I was just pointing out that both HW2 and HW2.5 are known to be underpowered for what Tesla is trying to do, by Tesla's own statements, and so unless they happen to have dedicated compression modules that sit idle, they probably don't have general CUDA cores to spare for compression because they're all busy doing NN inference. I don't have time to look it up right now but there was some statement about how EAP is taking so long because they were having trouble getting the model small enough to fit on their GPUs. Then there is the later statement about HW3 being required for FSD, and the math has always checked out on that -- despite Elon's many statements that HW2 was plenty good enough, it is not hard to check the specs and see that it (by which I mean HW2 and also HW2.5) just can't run any halfway sophisticated model on all 8 cameras at full frame rate or anything close to that.
That is funny stuff right there!
I think I have figured out the Elon Standard Time Scalar (tm). It is the value of Pi. I think that Elon thinks in radians.
Around Aug. 1, Elon said V9 would be out at the end of August. Multiply 1 month by 3.14 and you get somewhere around the 4th of Nov.
So my prediction is Nov 4 plus or minus 1 day.
DDotJ
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v9 is rolling out wide release now, according to Elon:
Looks like Drive on Nav will follow shortly in a few weeks, but the other parts of version 9 are rolling out now.
Looks like Drive on Nav will follow shortly in a few weeks, but the other parts of version 9 are rolling out now.
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That is funny stuff right there!
I think I have figured out the Elon Standard Time Scalar (tm). It is the value of Pi. I think that Elon thinks in radians.
Around Aug. 1, Elon said V9 would be out at the end of August. Multiply 1 month by 3.14 and you get somewhere around the 4th of Nov.
So my prediction is Nov 4 plus or minus 1 day.
So FSD differentiation on Nov 4, then, according to the original tweet? Or do you also have to apply a scaling factor to the features promised? In this case perhaps 1/pi?
You have been a member of this forum since 2013, and you still quote Elon's tweets on timelines as a source of authoritative information? Wow.
I expect on August in 19. 2064 is too far off, not sure if I will live that long.
Evil Twin
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Nah, turns out it was me they were waiting for. Left my car at the airport yesterday and as I expected version 9 started appearing on non-early access cars shortly afterwards. Luckily my car doesn’t have internet in the parking structure, so at least I am not staring at a update notice on my phone while I am across the country.
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