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I wish.
We early buyers did not get even that. No button. No driver score. No chance in participating the beta lottery. Just the credit card charge.
It can be revoked at any time. Will it stop all idiots, no. But I think it will help.Yea, because idiot YouTubers can't drive like gramma for a week to unlock FSD. Super safe.
It can be revoked at any time. Will it stop all idiots, no. But I think it will help.
I’d rather pay $10k to unlock Model 3 Ludicrous mode. (Didn’t say Plaid cause for only $10k, getting Plaid would be unreasonable. )
I subbed for a month to see what it was like. Not impressed at all. To me, it's worthless--I wouldn't pay $1 a month for it.My question stems from a somewhat off-topic discussion in the "Model X Refresh Waiting Room" thread that many seem to have strong opinions on one way or another. I wanted to break this off into a separate discussion to stay on topic.
In my opinion, FSD is worth the price you pay for the Model X. (Specifically the X)
I don't believe it is accurate to look at FSD as full autonomy, or assume you will ever obtain it in the lifetime of the car. Look at it from the perspective of paying $10,000 to add a feature set:
For me, considering the already overly-elaborate car we are buying.. adding this set of features for less than 9% of my car's configuration is an easy decision to make.
- Lane changes on highway (overtake slower cars)
- On and Off ramps for highway
- App summoning features - drive/navigate through a parking lot
- Use the key fob to drive the car forwards and backwards (useful for tight spaces or when over a deep puddle)
- Autopark
- Stop sign and stop light aware stopping
- Future release - additional options at a later date (likely more within your span of ownership)
- Raised value - Remember when FSD was $5,000 in May of 2019? In under 3 years I added $5k of value to my 2017 X (market inflation set aside)
Don't think of FSD as full autonomy - otherwise you will be disappointed and disgruntled. Maybe it is better renamed "Premium Autonomous Features".
People seem to have some compelling arguments in both directions. I am curious to hear.
Autosteer is also disengaged by signaling
I am one of those who bought FSD for a 2018 Model 3 (with no previous EAP) at the sale price of $5,000 after February 28, but before May 1, 2019. Below is an illustrative flowchart,[....]
For those who paid FSD $5,000. That's not all that you paid.
To get that price, you had to already pay Enhanced Autopilot first at $3,000 pre-delivery or $4,000 post-delivery.
If you add FSD post-delivery, it's $6,000 in addition to the above Enhanced Autopilot price.
Then, for those who are unlucky that got MCU1, don't forget to include the $2,500 MCU2 upgrade (prior to labor and taxes)
Thus, an old $5,000 FSD is actually not $5,000, it's double that price at least!
If you can afford it, then that's fine but to justify that you only paid a bargain for an old 2017 FSD at $5,000 is false.
I am one of those who bought FSD for a 2018 Model 3 (with no previous EAP) at the sale price of $5,000 after February 28, but before May 1, 2019. Below is an illustrative flowchart,
courtesy TroyTeslike. My car also did not come with HW3, but was upgraded to it for free.
Agreed. Near the same time I bought an M3, my sister's husband did so too. When I mentioned theThanks. Your case does prove the point of firesale can save $5,000 from the present price of $10,000.
However, I don't think the majority is as lucky as you are so it is not fair to generalize that the majority had perfect timing and got the firesale just in time.
With the way I drive the 3, I’m not going to worry about a safety score.Just make sure you don't brake too hard after accelerating or your safety score will go down
Really is backwards. People that bought in earlier really should get first dibs. :/I wish.
We early buyers did not get even that. No button. No driver score. No chance in participating the beta lottery. Just the credit card charge.
Can anyone help? I bought a 2017 MS with FSD. I have Nav on AP, Summon, Traffic Light and Stop Sign aware. Two weeks after I purchased the vehicle, Tesla contacted me to upgrade the FSD computer. I am, however , on software version 2020.48.37.6. my vehicle is telling me that my software is up to date. I cannot download the new release to get the button. I have a call into Tesla and I am awaiting a reply. Does anyone know what might be going on?
Yes. YOur computer needs upgrading.Can anyone help? I bought a 2017 MS with FSD. I have Nav on AP, Summon, Traffic Light and Stop Sign aware. Two weeks after I purchased the vehicle, Tesla contacted me to upgrade the FSD computer. I am, however , on software version 2020.48.37.6. my vehicle is telling me that my software is up to date. I cannot download the new release to get the button. I have a call into Tesla and I am awaiting a reply. Does anyone know what might be going on?
Can anyone help? I bought a 2017 MS with FSD. I have Nav on AP, Summon, Traffic Light and Stop Sign aware. Two weeks after I purchased the vehicle, Tesla contacted me to upgrade the FSD computer. I am, however , on software version 2020.48.37.6. my vehicle is telling me that my software is up to date. I cannot download the new release to get the button. I have a call into Tesla and I am awaiting a reply. Does anyone know what might be going on?
Welcome to TMC Scott!
Yea, sorry to say, since you're on MCU1 you won't get FSD and there is no timeline to get it to people like us. According to TeslaFi, less than 1% of the entire fleet is running MCU1 with AP3. We're small fries in Tesla's eyes. Easy to forget about.
I do feel guilty to pay for MCU2 in order to get the latest firmware.
Thus, there should be only 1 FSD payment and not multiple payments (FSD+MCU2) to get the current FSD beta firmware.
I do admire those who refuse to pay for MCU2 to hold Tesla's promise "pay FSD now (before MCU2 comes out) and you'll get your FSD later."
Yeah, same here. That's why I'm hoping my $3k investment actually gets me something useful, like a free MCU2While I think FSD is a joke and a waste of money, I was more than happy to upgrade to MCU2 since it actually provided something tangible and of value.