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The other thing to question here is if HW3 cars with FSD get a hardware update to HW4, whenever that is.
I see the past policy about the computer upgrade to HW3, but nothing about a promise to do this in the future for current HW3 cars.
Do you know what you don't know? In other words, until they actually achieve FSD there is no way to know that for sure. They claim it has more than enough processing power to achieve FSD, but like most complex problems the amount of effort to get those last few percentage points to achieve the goal is typically exponential in nature. Those last few percentage points might just be a LOT more training and code, or perhaps you hit a wall with that approach and you need to make some hardware change to break through that ceiling. Not a simple problem to solve with high reliability and confidence, especially the unknowns.Isn't HW3 supposed to be everything that will ever be needed for full autonomy?
In that case, you should opt out of arbitration within x days of buying the car. I think x=30, but it's been nearly two years since I bought my model 3.Right, but if they sell me FSD with HW3 and say "This is the last hardware change we will need to achieve full autonomy", and then they come back in 2 years and say "Oooo, yeah just kidding we're going to need different hardware", I'll be asking them when my appointment to swap in the hardware I paid for will be.
Where do you get that? Please cite your authoritative source for this statement, which I believe is 100% wrong.The piece you would lose, is that if a hardware upgrade is necessary for FSD, you do not get the upgrade for free. That only goes to people that have ordered it with the car. (currently) As we all know, everything changes with Tesla.
Subscription based FSD you can transfer it to new Tesla you purchased later. Like Cyertruck. Standard FSD stay with same vehicle. But when selling Y in the future, with out of date hardwares and higher price tag. It will only hindered the sale. The difference between second hand Tesla with or without FSD is not that much difference.@MyMai what do you mean inability? I thought that was a mistake when a dealership was given FSD for demo purposes and they sold it and then removed FSD from the customer. the FSD is tied to the car itself is it not?
Since you disagreed with my advice to opt out of arbitration, I'll cite the only authoritative source I know of on hardware upgrades for FSD, even though it doesn't address the assertion of @Ghanziang.Where do you get that? Please cite your authoritative source for this statement, which I believe is 100% wrong.
Does such a thing exist?Subscription based FSD you can transfer it to new Tesla you purchased later. Like Cyertruck.
I'm well aware of the current language on Tesla's website. It makes no distinction between FSD bought with the car vs bought post-sale. Any HW required for "FSD" is implicit in the purchase price, at or after sale.If someone expects a free upgrade to 4.0, I would say that Tesla hasn't promised that and that person should expect to litigate to have a chance to make that happen--arbitration probably won't succeed.
That's funny. I've never been involved in any litigation in my life. Preserving options against binding arbitration seems like ordinary care to me.Your musings are based on your apparent litigious nature.