You can easily test this. Park in an empty parking lot (church lots work really well). Go into the Service Menu (the hidden one) and bring up the camera feeds. Now have a friend walk around the car while you change camera feeds and see if there is a blind spot, and how large it is. Report back here.
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FSD v12.x (end to end AI)
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- #fixphantombraking autopilot chill is not chill elon is an ass fix fsd extreme late deceleration fsd does not commit to go fsd does not maintain proper speed fsd doesn't read signs properly fsd hard and late braking fsd has decision wobble fsd jerky driving fsd late deceleration fsd sometimes may not detect train crossings fsd stops too early too quickly fsd stops too far behind line fsd tailgating in city streets
I think you are right.
Another tidbit for folks who don't believe the Testers exist: I looked at TelsaFi, which has maps of each versions regional counts, and compared the % of installs in each version which are in US and Canada relative to the total for the version. Why is this informative? Since 2023 fsd 11.3.6 has been included in all updates, world wide, wether or not each car has paid for FSD. When the FSD beta program started (Safety score and all that), only people in the US were allowed in, and sometime later Canada was added. As a result, all of the early beta testers are in US and Canda. So, let's look at the data, taken today:
Version. US & Canada
2024.20.1 33%
2024.14.9 79%
2024.3.25. 100%
For Omar's fans 
With the ADA Test Operators in Chuck's area and this post from Omar maybe this week is reasonable for v12.4.2
What do you think Gottagofast?
With the ADA Test Operators in Chuck's area and this post from Omar maybe this week is reasonable for v12.4.2What do you think Gottagofast?
Check me on this, but I think the dash cam footage does not include the pillar cameras, which do overlap with the front view cams. The pillar cams are viewable in the service menu, though, just not the dash cam recordings, I think.
Correct, but this gives the person empirical data to put their mind at ease vs just accepting strangers on the Internet.
tmoz
S85D, Y LR, ex Prius PiP
Since you live in Tx, you have to be familiar with those highways that pass through small towns. 70 mph between towns, 50 mph or less in the town. Complete with bidirectional frontage roads on either side of the main highway. Entering the highway from one of those frontage roads makes you cut across the other direction of that frontage road, with the other direction having a yield sign.
Traveling to the eclipse in April (from I40 to Denton to Mineola), FSD had a nervous breakdown - several I might say, trying to figure out what speed to go and who was supposed to yield when on the frontage road.
Perhaps this was just the V11 stack at work, or maybe the V12 in a strange world it didn’t understand.
Have you given it a go on those highways?
Chock full of interventions. If Elon is looking for interventions, there is a hornet’s nest right there in his back yard.
GlmnAlyAirCar
Active Member
You assume these rectangular cropped and projected images on the screen are everything that the camera feeds into the computer.
sleepydoc
Well-Known Member
Here’s a good example - the bumper of the car shown to my left was actually in front of my car’s bumper when this shot was taken. Had I merged I would have caused an accident.
It the accuracy is dependent on relative speed (or anything, for that matter) then it’s worthless as a blind spot monitor.
GlmnAlyAirCar
Active Member
You just talked about a church parking lot. You have no way to know the entirety of what the cameras see even through the service menu.
Yeah. I meant to reply to him rather than you, sorry.Correct, but this gives the person empirical data to put their mind at ease vs just accepting strangers on the Internet.
I thought you meant the visualization was more detailed. I didn't realize you meant the map. That is very interesting. Never seen or heard of that. Maybe a feature that wasn't meant to be accessible yet? I remember reading that Teslas in China would be getting an enhanced map.
When activating the turn signal, the visualization highlights cars in red that are in the path of your lane change. More importantly, the visualization camera zooms out to reveal more of the space behind your car specifically when you activate the turn signal in a lane change context. This suggests that the designers had blind spot assistance in mind when working on the visualization.
Woah, feels like something's unusually bad with your car. That's a lot of distance shown - mine has never been that far off (not that I watch it that closely all the time, but when cruising on AP I've looked at adjacent vehicles on the vis a fair bit).
And from watching a pile of FSD testing videos the visualization is typically quite accurate.
gottagofast
2022 Model 3 Performance
No 4.2 this week, next weekFor Omar's fans
What do you think Gottagofast?
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Yes. The blue route line on the *map* would waver and would sometimes be in the correct lane of a two lane 35-45 mph country road, or it might be in the right hand ditch, or the left hand ditch, etc. But there was that level of detail.
Is it possible that the car was traveling much faster, such that by the time you physically checked its position, it was already at your bumper? Seeing a car that was passing me and that close in the visualization would inform me that I don't have space to change lanes. On the other hand, if I was overtaking that driver, it would mean I have enough clearance.
zoomer0056
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I don't believe the visualization was ever meant to be used as a blind spot detection safety feature.
Maybe not a primary but a secondary consideration during its design. Again, why would it zoom out for lane changes?
