FSD v12.x (end to end AI)

[JHCCAZ]

Hey, you are propagating the stereotype that when people think engineer they think of trains ... Shame on you!

@JHCCAZ please deliver the WWF Smackdown

Well I'll have to find him again.

Yesterday I came up behind him at a stop sign. His FSD wouldn't go and he was furiously shoveling coal into the frunk.

I told him to read the release notes again and I haven't seen him since.

 

[Ramphex]

Not if you’re in Brooksville Florida

But you’re not there either lol

 

[SidetrackedSue]

It should be Full Supervised Driving System. It removes all the confusing 'self' which most of us took to mean the car would be fully driving itself when the ambiguity meant that the lawyers could argue the car was always meant to be fully driving me-self, therefore I would always be there to supervise.

 

[AndrewZ]

The shift out of Beta and into (Supervised) makes complete sense to me and totally aligns with what Tesla told the Cali DMV four years ago: a *final* wide release to the fleet will still be Level 2.


Couple tidbits I found interesting, this is currently the only mention I see of (Supervised) on the Tesla website:

Link: https://www.tesla.com/support/full-self-driving-subscriptions

Also Teslarati reported on Tesla explaining this shift to Goldman Sachs back in 2022, to be rolled out at the end of that year

Tesla “supervised” FSD release to entire fleet on track for the end of 2022

Tesla exec Martin Viecha recently noted that the company was on track to release “supervised” FSD within Musk’s predicted timeline.

www.teslarati.com

 

[VT_EE]

What did the alert say? I keep getting a toll booth detected alert on 12.3….. and I have yet to drive through a toll booth since I got that update.

It was a load alert sound, not a message.

 

[EvSky]

Just got that email and a free month of FSD 12.3.2.1. It immediately hit a curb where FSD 11 was doing just fine. Sigh. I was a bit too slow to react, of course.

The driving experience is not improved where I drive. Very awkward decisions on when to change lanes merging to freeway. Braking for high contrast shadows from trees. Accelerating a bit hard from stop signs. Gets confused with New England intersections where one lane splits into 2 or 3 for the intersection only, etc etc etc. A couple of improvement I found is - slowing down for railroad crossings and probably bumps; and not driving directly in the middle of a rural road with no markings. But plenty of regressions in my experience. Definitely not a human like. At least not in New England. A lot of hype though.

And don't get me wrong, I am still impressed with what it can do (minus curb hitting part), but it is not any closer to a finished product than FSD 11 was.

 

[Ramphex]

So people getting newest version on free trial and us, assholes, who paid thousands of dollars get the stale 12.3? Classy…. Very classy.

 

[Pdubs]

But you’re not there either lol

I have receipts for 3 red light tickets. Go up there twice a month

 

[Mardak]

2024.3.10 / FSD Supervised 12.3.3 is pending 460 TeslaFi vehicles right now (97% 3/Y but a few S/X) while Teslascope is showing they're coming from 2024.2.7 so far. Hopefully this includes additional vehicle configurations that 2024.3.6 / 12.3.2.1 didn't include.

 

[Acisplat]

So people getting newest version on free trial and us, assholes, who paid thousands of dollars get the stale 12.3? Classy…. Very classy.

I have an FSD subscription, maybe I should cancel it, get pushed a 2024 build, then re-subscribe to FSD.

 

[LowlyOilBurner]

I hate to burst your bubble, but most Tesla owners don't go to Walmart!!

Edit: Unless they are heavily armed for self defense

I dunno. I buy paper towels from Walmart. The “high end ones”, that say they are equivalent to like 6 of the “regular” rolls. They are actually awesome. The buck stops there though. They are good paper towels for around the shop and such.

 

[mgs333]

2024.3.10 / FSD Supervised 12.3.3 is pending 460 TeslaFi vehicles right now (97% 3/Y but a few S/X) while Teslascope is showing they're coming from 2024.2.7 so far. Hopefully this includes additional vehicle configurations that 2024.3.6 / 12.3.2.1 didn't include.

First 3 installs are on 2022 (read USS) y and 3. Hope for us with USS!

 

[Todd Burch]

Do we have any clue what 12.3.3 addresses?

 

[kpanda17]

First 3 installs are on 2022 (read USS) y and 3. Hope for us with USS!

2023 MYP with USS
Downloading 2024.3.10/12.3.3
Very interesting
I did 5x FSD drives with my M3 and 12.3.2.1
Tomorrow will be interesting
MY drives with 12.3.3

 

[JHCCAZ]

Do we have any clue what 12.3.3 addresses?

Scanning release notes on notateslaapp.com

New name FSD (Supervised) now in release notes
Autopark (presumably for all??)
Improved driving visualization
Some charging features, stats etc
UWB phone key
Adaptive high beams for model 3 Highland
Miscellaneous other things that have been on 2024 builds

 

[Ramphex]

 

[nikolajz1]

I wonder if with the move to "supervised" Whole Mars will be forced by Tesla to remove the no nag cheat device? Surprised they even let him keep in as a condition to get early access to V12.

 

[Todd Burch]

Scanning release notes on notateslaapp.com

New name FSD (Supervised) now in release notes
Autopark (presumably for all??)
Improved driving visualization
Some charging features, stats etc
UWB phone key
Adaptive high beams for model 3 Highland
Miscellaneous other things that have been on 2024 builds

The FSD version itself is incremented so that implies there's a change to the FSD code or NN in some way.

 

[JHCCAZ]

The FSD version itself is incremented so that implies there's a change to the FSD code or NN in some way.

Possibly, but they haven't been giving details about those things lately. Could be some incremental training or some parameter tweaks. Ashok just recently used the word "tuning" and it's unclear if that always necessitates incremental training.

 

[Ramphex]

I wonder if with the move to "supervised" Whole Mars will be forced by Tesla to remove the no nag cheat device? Surprised they even let him keep in as a condition to get early access to V12.

Why would he be forced to remove anything regardless of the name lol