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FSD v12.x (end to end AI)
- Thread starter Buckminster
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- #fixphantombraking autopilot chill is not chill elon is an ass fix fsd extreme late deceleration fsd does not commit to go fsd does not maintain proper speed fsd doesn't read signs properly fsd hard and late braking fsd has decision wobble fsd jerky driving fsd late deceleration fsd sometimes may not detect train crossings fsd stops too early too quickly fsd stops too far behind line fsd tailgating in city streets
FSDtester#1
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gottagofast
2022 Model 3 Performance
First, I am not suggesting Tesla will implement L3 just speculating a bit. There is nothing preventing Tesla from enabling Theatre mode on controlled access highways if they believe a low number of disengagements is realistic. Or disable the phone nag so people could use their phone for testing or surfing. I drive hours on the controlled access highways every month and have only disengaged when coming up to an accident scene. In a situation like that FSD could just hand off driving to me. There is a wide variety of L3 implementation options and I would suggest people should consider the possibilities and be a bit more open minded. 2 years ago the suggestion of an L3 option was laughed at. Today more and more people are beginning to revisit L3 since letting their car be used for robotaxis services is of no interest to most. If FSD truly reduces disengagements substantially L3 is going to come up again and again.
This aged well from a week ago. Looks like BOTH were right. I'll take it!Think there are two possibilities:
1. Major bugs and/or issues with 12.4, in which case we all better turn on camp mode and chill because it's going to be a minute. Almost a full retrain sounds cool but a lot could've gone sideways.
2. Purely wishful thinking on my part BUT maybe they are syncing 12.4 up with the latest vehicle software and will surprise us with a 2024.15.x release. In that case we'll all lose our collectivein happiness because then 2024.3.25 and 2024.14.x will both have a clear upgrade path for FSD 12.4 at the same time instead of only getting the latest vehicle or FSD version. Based on that Elon tweet I mentioned earlier, it's possible he meant that after the rollout of 12.4 it won't be an issue because the vehicle software and FSD sync will have already happened.
Smart money is on #1, but being optimistic for #2 is more fun.
I think we all will.
I'm pretty excited about the UI update. I'm used to being 6 months behind until Christmas.
I bet all the regulars will get updated to 24.20.x in the next week or so to pass the 24.15.x branch. I predicted this in a past post. Hope it happens quick so we can get this 12.4.1 on the move. Please let's start seeing 24.20.x updates on TeslaFi in the next day or 2.
FSDtester#1
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gottagofast
2022 Model 3 Performance
24.14.x get moved up to 24.20.x in the next week or 2. THEN if all goes well with 12.4.1 or 12.4.2 we, 24.3.25 will get the 24.15.x update. So we will of course still be behind.
FSDtester#1
Large Member
Soft reboot fixes that, and there is no reason to check until you see it rolling out to others on this thread.
NOT TRUE since we all know Gottagofast will be first to get it since they disengage every 10' of driving.
FSDtester#1
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sleepydoc
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So if I hire someone to ride shotgun and watch the Green Dot I can sightsee all I want until they tell me the Green Dot is on and then I just watch the road until they tell me it is off again????
But many of these things are about thinking outside of the box. Let me throw in an example. The car cant see beyond a truck blocking the road ahead causing a backup (and no mix of LIDAR/RADAR is going to give the car X-ray vision). But there IS another Tesla also stopped just beyond the truck, so the car sneaks a peak through the cameras of the car ahead. Far-fetched? There are a LOT of Teslas on the road now, and I can see no technical barriers to such a feature. And why shouldn’t the cars NN “look ahead” by getting recent data on upcoming intersections from other cars that have passed through recently? At this point the delta between the Tesla “self-drive” and the Waymo “HD maps” approach starts to blur, and the cars inherently start to do things humans cannot do simply because they have more data. Sure, this wont happen tomorrow, but I see no barriers to any of this in the future.
This isnt about building a car that can simulate a human, it’s about building a car that bypasses the inherent limitations of a human.
FSDtester#1
Large Member
You can call me the Stopped Analog Clock.
Check back in 12 hours for the lotto numbers.
FSDtester#1
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Green dot, red dot, whatever ammunition you need to drive safely...So if I hire someone to ride shotgun and watch the Green Dot I can sightsee all I want until they tell me the Green Dot is on and then I just watch the road until they tell me it is off again????
