Omar,
Is that the new size cell you were holding? The 21x70 versus 18x65.
RT
I neglected to ask, but I would assume so--its what they are using in the Tesla Energy gear
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Omar,
Is that the new size cell you were holding? The 21x70 versus 18x65.
RT
The cathode substrate is aluminium foil, very thin. I believe the anode is a different metal, but not sure.Reading over this, not sure if the substrate is metal or if I made that up - not a battery geek, so some of this flew past me during the explanation.
I don't think this is the place to judge anyone's psychological needs. Really when is it appropriate to judge anyone's psychological needs? You have no idea, context, or understanding of what this man may or may not need. To take the extra steps of taking his picture, without his permission, then to publicly shame his totally uncalled for and more than a little ridiculous.This whole thing where people are bringing psychological service dogs everywhere is a little ridiculous:
I asked as well, but my presenter didn't know the answer of how it was achieved. I think it was just part of the presenter talking points and the people behind the talking point weren't there to explain it.I asked about the 80% efficiency increase and that gain was achieved all in simulation not real world use, still cool but I found that statement a bit misleading from the presenter.
Yes, that's the new cell size. Many folks in the presentations had them on hand.Omar,
Is that the new size cell you were holding? The 21x70 versus 18x65.
RT
I couldn't have said it better myself, especially when the person in the photo is a TMC member and will likely see that image.I don't think this is the place to judge anyone's psychological needs. Really when is it appropriate to judge anyone's psychological needs? You have no idea, context, or understanding of what this man may or may not need. To take the extra steps of taking his picture, without his permission, then to publicly shame his totally uncalled for and more than a little ridiculous.
I doubt that although I did not specifically ask about the cell size used in today's energy product. They are not making any of the new cells yet in Nevada and are importing them from Panasonic in Japan, I think. That means they are very likely using the old 18650 size for now.I neglected to ask, but I would assume so--its what they are using in the Tesla Energy gear
Did anyone actually think to measure it? The pictured one looks like the same as the old (including the cap design). I'm pretty sure cell production did not start yet, given they only got the permit to install the cell production equipment last month (with finish date put at July 20th).Yes, that's the new cell size. Many folks in the presentations had them on hand.
Did anyone actually think to measure it? The pictured one looks like the same as the old (including the cap design). I'm pretty sure cell production did not start yet, given they only got the permit to install the cell production equipment last month (with finish date put at July 20th). In Reno NV, Tesla Gets Permits Needed To Start Cell Production, Expand Gigafactory To Include Fifth Section
Previous indications was cell production would start by end of the year and a report about Panasonic put the cell production start time at November in a report last month: Panasonic to jump-start US battery cell output for Tesla- Nikkei Asian Review Also, I believe it had not been officially confirmed yet Tesla has decided to switch to a new cell size yet (even though there was talk about the advantages of doing so).
If those are indeed 2170s, is it possible Panasonic may have brought them over from Japan? That may explain how sample cells may be available to show off at the event even though the Gigafactory itself isn't ready to manufacture them?Did anyone actually think to measure it? The pictured one looks like the same as the old (including the cap design). I'm pretty sure cell production did not start yet, given they only got the permit to install the cell production equipment last month (with finish date put at July 20th).
In Reno NV, Tesla Gets Permits Needed To Start Cell Production, Expand Gigafactory To Include Fifth Section
Previous indications was cell production would start by end of the year and a report about Panasonic put the cell production start time at November in a report last month:
Panasonic to jump-start US battery cell output for Tesla- Nikkei Asian Review
Also, I believe it had not been officially confirmed yet Tesla has decided to switch to a new cell size yet (even though there was talk about the advantages of doing so).
Here are a few additional photos from the GF event ... including the VIP roof party with Elon and JB.
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I don't believe Panasonic has any 21700 cells in production. They do have 20700 cells, which I suppose would work fine as an analog for display purposes (the 1 mm difference wouldn't matter for this purpose).If those are indeed 2170s, is it possible Panasonic may have brought them over from Japan? That may explain how sample cells may be available to show off at the event even though the Gigafactory itself isn't ready to manufacture them?
Also I need to correct myself, it seems Tesla did mention to reporters that they have switched to 21 x 70 mm cells for the gigafactory and that they will name them "2170" (dropping the extra zero). I supposed that is pronounced 21-70 (that is how it was previously written in another report after an interview question with Elon and JB).Also, I believe it had not been officially confirmed yet Tesla has decided to switch to a new cell size yet (even though there was talk about the advantages of doing so).
Hah, hilarious!I didn't notice when I took this photo, but is that a cloud or N Tesla looking down at the event?
lol, some dude taking an upskirt...
Face is too round to have been Nikola Tesla. Edison, perhaps, glowering over the gigantic facility named after his rival?I didn't notice when I took this photo, but is that a cloud or N Tesla looking down at the event?
No no, it is Aeolus who is looking for the windmills that he should provide with windsFace is too round to have been Nikola Tesla. Edison, perhaps, glowering over the gigantic facility named after his rival?