I lied. I'm back.
I believe where we differ is economics.
No, we differ in logic. And understanding of supply and demand.
However without the options as a bargaining chip...I would have no leverage.
Completely wrong. Your leverage is price. You can drop the price of the no-option car and sell it FASTER than a fully optioned car.
But that goes back to your analogy of pennies, and you seem to talk-the-talk with regards to not caring about pennies, but based on the above comment, you don't walk-the-walk.
The person with the optioned car will set the price for the base model.
No, the market sets the price of the base base.
If the optioned car drops its price to the base model price....then what is the base model seller going to be forced to do?
Again, no, market sets the price. If ONE person with a fully optioned cars drops their price it does NOTHING for the base model. If EVERY person with a fully option car is forced to drop their price (i.e. market), then EVERY person with a base model will be forced to drop their price.
I want the leverage is all I'm saying. I use options as a leverage to sell quickly
For someone who doesn't care about pennies, you can just as easily trade the car into a dealership and not worry about leverage.
Also, price is leverage, not options.
I could easily say....I'll drop my loaded optioned car to a base model price if I want to move the car. The base model car owner will just have to sit there and keep trying to sell.
Again, 100% wrong. The base model owner can drop their price too. Just like you did.
Supply and demand.
The problem is that loaded Teslas are lined up for sale - floating right above base level pricing.
That's Tesla's CPO problem. That's not the market. Tesla is trying to get as much money as they can. Instead of looking at CPOs (for someone who doesn't care about pennies, you shouldn't be looking at CPO's in either case), you should be looking at the private sale market.
See....the options are depreciating, not the price of the cars.
Isn't that what I said many many many posts above? So you agree with me. Great!
The base model Tesla isn't depreciating fast enough to compete with the depreciation of the options of a loaded model.
Again, not correct. Stop looking at the CPO site. That's not the market value of the Teslas. The base model depreciates at the same amount, options depreciate at the same amount (look at Tesla's old trade in value), if Tesla is trying to sell you a base model for more than the market dictates, it'll sit there and not sell.
You can see this plain as day on Ebay.
Don't look at the LIST price on ebay. I can list a Model X for $250M, doesn't mean that's valid. Look at sale prices, you'll see that no one wants to buy a $60K Model X that's 1 year old, as that's an unrealistic price. If they drop it to be more realistic, then it'll sell. But the depreciation is still less. $140k-$70k = $80k in depreciation in 1 year. $79k - $49k (if I drop a Model X to $49k, it'd be gone in 3 seconds flat) = $30k depreciation 1 year.
You're proving my point for me!
The person with the base model may have spent their last dime trying to buy a base model MX and is more than likely going to have a difficult time selling it for what it's worth because of those faster depreciated loaded models. Sure the loaded model depreciated, but who cares?
That's a strawman argument, I will not go there.
Do what you want...just be aware.
We can agree here.