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Bear in mind that people with no problems are not that likely to join a group like this unless they are geeks like me. So in these kind of groups mostly you will hear about problems. With over 500,000 cars on the road, even a 1/2% problem rate means 2,500 complaints.
That goes both ways too!
It's obvious there are still a lot of quality problems with tesla. The fact that not everyone experienced them, just means their QA is not good and build quality is very inconsistent. You can get one with zero problems for years or one which will make a service center your second home... pure gamble for now.
You are absolutely correct but the people with issues think all Teslas have the same issues. Try not to get into a pissing match over it with the ones with issues....not worth it.Bear in mind that people with no problems are not that likely to join a group like this unless they are geeks like me. So in these kind of groups mostly you will hear about problems. With over 500,000 cars on the road, even a 1/2% problem rate means 2,500 complaints.
Having driven my friend's Model 3, I am complete enamored by the Tesla and seriously considering purchasing an new Model S.
While I think the technology and ideology of Tesla is amazing, but I am really weary of making the purchase due to all the information I read about quality issues and after purchase care.
It seems like a lot of the issues are consistent year over year for any particular Model.
So my question is, are purchasers with newer models experiencing the same issues or frequency of issues as the older models? Has Tesla improved their quality? It seems odd that a company focused on constant improvement of a vehicle would continue to have issues with say door handles year after year.
I guess what I looking for is a little comfort from actual owners that I can expect some improvement in quality and not have as many headaches as early adopters.
This was due to a design flaw in early Model Ss. Failed drive units were refurbished at the factory with some shims, but those would eventually fail again. I believe this was resolved in later years.the reduction gear in the drive train will eventually develop play
Hey Mike, (Woodstock, Ga.) my 2018 S75D had / has the same issues. In addition to the yellow screen stripe which the Tesla SC in Alpharetta continues to side step, , I also see numerous proximity alerts from the sensors on the rear, passenger side. Driving nowhere near any obstacle, the flashing yellow and sometimes white arc lines appear. Your experience?
I think you are missing the point of Tesla ownership... service is much lower on the list of concerns vs. ICE vehicle.. you do not need oil changes, it has an order of magnitude less parts to break ....i have been in to the SC for 2 minor warranty items(camera, frunk release) in the 2.5 years i have owned my MS ... once the initial bugs were worked out is has been smooth sailing no trips to SC ... i would have been to SC for ICE vehicle probably 5-6 times for oil changes , possibly brakes, and possibly minor warranty items...If Tesla didn't have the infrastructure to support the repair of vehicles, it shouldn't have put all those Model 3s on the road in less than a year. It discourages buyers, like me, who really want a Tesla, but are understandably worried about service. It probably annoys the S class owners, who paid $100,000 for a car, and now can't get anyone at Tesla to pick up the phone.
Musk is tarnishing his brand. He should not be focused on space rockets, renting solar panels, and selling insurance. He should have focused on building service centers, and creating a system to distribute parts to damaged vehicles.
FIA (Forum Induced Anxiety) is common on the internet. A couple owners complain about a problem, and make it sound like all the cars have issues, but in reality, most Tesla are pretty reliable, take minimal maintenance, and provide years of reliable travel.
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...My 2017 Model S had the following replaced in the first 5 months: battery (the battery, in the first week), A/C unit, front wiring harness, and MCU (which is the 17" display and the computer that drives all the functions therein). .
...My second Model S (2019) hasn't had any equipment problems as of yet (3 months of ownership).
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Biggest changes would be the recent Raven updates.
Otherwise they are essentially the same vehicles.
The price of a new X100 is about the same as a 2017 X75.
You can save a bunch and still get a great car by buying a nice shape 2017.
@Mediocrates
But do you see/feel any difference in the two cars? Put another way, if someone bought a used 2017 model S today with all the fixens (not P), what would they be missing out on from the 2019 version?