mmccord
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The last time I got it, it was at forty miles.
Ah yes, I thought I had seen it on other occasions. Which brings up my oft-used joke that at 15% battery remaining, my Model S turns into a fully charged Nissan Leaf.
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The last time I got it, it was at forty miles.
Wow, that's the first time I've seen that in the summer.Well, I'm the only one who answered yes, so far. I'm a little embarrassed to admit that this happened to me after about 2 1/2 years of ownership.
I had 3 miles remaining on the dash and I was about a mile from home driving on a 40 mph road, so I made a bad assumption that I would make it ok. It immediately gave the "pull over, shutting down" (or something like that) warning when it hit 2 miles remaining and all power was gone from the accelerator. Luckily, I had enough speed that I was able to coast to a safe place to stop.
Tesla initially tried telling me the tow fees would be my responsibility, since they don't cover running out of juice. Once I explained that, according to the car, I still had 2 miles left, they agreed to cover it, but also said that this was normal behavior.
No, Tesla should not provide more detailed battery data because it would only get the average (average level of knowledge about EVs) user into trouble and the car needs to be designed for the below average user since that is a large fraction of the population.I think Tesla really needs to expose better battery data. While many people wouldn't know what to do with them, I personally would like to see pack voltage, max/min cell voltages, estimate kWh in/out, etc about the battery pack. This way I don't have to rely on this miles display at all if I don't want to.
Considering where you were with the hills + stop signs... I'm not surprised. Also averaging 357wh/m on trip at 97F while using 19" tires, that's pushing it. Those previous miles were prolly on the freeway, so the range algorithm didn't have a chance to refigure. Very close!Well, I'm the only one who answered yes, so far. I'm a little embarrassed to admit that this happened to me after about 2 1/2 years of ownership.
I had 3 miles remaining on the dash and I was about a mile from home driving on a 40 mph road, so I made a bad assumption that I would make it ok. It immediately gave the "pull over, shutting down" (or something like that) warning when it hit 2 miles remaining and all power was gone from the accelerator. Luckily, I had enough speed that I was able to coast to a safe place to stop.
Tesla initially tried telling me the tow fees would be my responsibility, since they don't cover running out of juice. Once I explained that, according to the car, I still had 2 miles left, they agreed to cover it, but also said that this was normal behavior.
I've found that knowledge of the area (elevation changes, etc) plus the average wh/m for 5/15/30 miles) is plenty of info to get an idea of whether I need to charge or can make it to next stop. Pack voltage + min/max is just noise to the calculations already being displayed for me.No, Tesla should not provide more detailed battery data because it would only get the average (average level of knowledge about EVs) user into trouble and the car needs to be designed for the below average user since that is a large fraction of the population.
You are a way above average EV user, and it would not make sense for Tesla to design a car and a UI for your level of knowledge. It is a product for the mass market, and needs to be designed with that in mind.
No, Tesla should not provide more detailed battery data because it would only get the average (average level of knowledge about EVs) user into trouble and the car needs to be designed for the below average user since that is a large fraction of the population.
The energy graph and projected range are very useful when at the low end of the battery.
I've drive my cars down to 1 rated mile on several occasions, and down below 10 on several more than that. If the car ever cuts off at > 0 rated miles showing I'm going to be pretty angry.
Actually the car never cuts out above zero, but when the battery pack is low remaining energy can get used up extremely quickly due to external conditions. If you drive down to 1 mile remaining often enough, sooner or later you'll probably get caught out.
No, Tesla should not provide more detailed battery data because it would only get the average (average level of knowledge about EVs) user into trouble and the car needs to be designed for the below average user since that is a large fraction of the population.
You are a way above average EV user, and it would not make sense for Tesla to design a car and a UI for your level of knowledge. It is a product for the mass market, and needs to be designed with that in mind.
I haven't had time to look, but in the manual anywhere is this behavior described?
I've drive my cars down to 1 rated mile on several occasions, and down below 10 on several more than that. If the car ever cuts off at > 0 rated miles showing I'm going to be pretty angry.
To this, I think Tesla really needs to expose better battery data. While many people wouldn't know what to do with them, I personally would like to see pack voltage, max/min cell voltages, estimate kWh in/out, etc about the battery pack. This way I don't have to rely on this miles display at all if I don't want to.
They're welcome to expose, for lack of a better term, dumbed-down info for the masses. Doesn't mean there can't be an option to expose the gory details for me and the others who want to use them. Seems like it would be *easier* to expose the raw data rather than compute other info based on it anyway, so why not?
The picture in message 17 from CgiGuy suggests otherwise. That's an "oops," I'd say.