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Help me decide: Model Y or Mach-E
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I like her videos because she's honest about her problems. It's one thing for the phone to have connections issues, but even the FOB? Plus, she hates sync 4 (for good reason) and uses CarPlay which has problems of its own. It's a miserable enough ownership experience that she's probably going to end up selling it is my guess.
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I've seen many posts about people getting updates only to have the problems return. PAAK is the best example, but there have been others. Some of the issues might be firmware related, but some are likely to be hardware as well. As far as OTAs? You'll be wasting your time waiting on Ford. They are still far from perfecting that process it seems. Instead, you'll have to visit the dealer and hope they'll actually do them.
RobDickinson
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Ford have a problem where their OTA update dosnt know about the dealer installed updates etc and everything gets messed up, which is why they have shelved (significant) OTA updates until March
It is call the confirmation bias. You will get one when you get a thing that you like and then someone points to its deficiencies. Nothing new, it's normal psychology.
If you actually watch the video where she loads both the Mach-E and the Model Y with bags, the picture is very different. She manages to put a lot more bags in the Model Y. The pictures you posted are just two frames of her presentations, and anyone can find a lot more frames there to demonstrate that the Model Y is a lot roomier than the Mach-E. The room in the Outback is truly gigantic, I completely agree, even if the passenger space is similar to the Model Y. One interesting thing about the dimensions: I own a Model 3 and an Acura MDX, and both have about the same trunk-end to windshield length that comfortably fits 10-feet long wood and pipes from Homedepot. It look though the Model Y might be slightly smaller in that dimension.
I see you on the macheforum. You hope you read the comments about the Mach-E hardware issues there. Also, a glance on the comments to the video of EV&Chill I posted will give you an idea of the state of the Mach-E. Many commenters tell her that she is very lucky to have no major hardware issues. Even though I find the Mach-E pretty ugly (and I can't support the family that openly supported and promoted the Holocaust), I hoped that Ford will be more serious about the EVs. My guess is that they will scrap the Mach-E within a year. Maybe they will try a Mach-E 2.0, I don't know. Their major problem is that they must kill the F-150 (ICE) in order to survive long term, and they just can't do it.
RobDickinson
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Oh our cars already carry a significant dealer markup by default
for example (we dont have the mach-e yet)
Normal mustang GT fastback usa rrp :$36,285
New Zealand price $82,990 (NZD or $58,385 USD), though that includes a 15% sales tax, so more like $50k equivalent usd)
for example (we dont have the mach-e yet)
Normal mustang GT fastback usa rrp :$36,285
New Zealand price $82,990 (NZD or $58,385 USD), though that includes a 15% sales tax, so more like $50k equivalent usd)
Well, her youtube channel is where CC is a handy feature.
That said, my wife has expropriated our Model 3 in the first week, and she likes it because (1) software and connectivity is awesome and (2) "you just press the pedal and it goes faster than anyone else". So, we have a Model Y on order now.
Personally, I believe that CarPlay is a crutch for failed in-car software. A good business decision on budget would be to provide NO in-car navigation and minimalistic interface, but make sure that the CarPlay works flawlessly, and then maybe sell the car bundled with an iPhone.
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RobDickinson
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15% sales tax in western countries is pretty low (outside of USA). Europe is often 20% or more!
A lot of car sales here are via licenced importers working on behalf (aka $$) of the manufacturer, pretty sure Ford NZ is actual Ford and all the dealerships are licenced franchises, I think there would be a lot of trouble if they tried selling direct.
A lot of car sales here are via licenced importers working on behalf (aka $$) of the manufacturer, pretty sure Ford NZ is actual Ford and all the dealerships are licenced franchises, I think there would be a lot of trouble if they tried selling direct.
RobDickinson
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Mach-e has a drain plug in the front for those shrimp on ice moments.
And Model Y comes with the ShrimpHazard mode. I wonder how long you can smell shrimp in Model-E...
OK I hate you all. But maybe can I join your Tesla club?This is from 16 Oct and you’re still flogging this horse?
sleepydoc
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Sounds like you need to get a Hummer, Nissan Armada, or some other form of compensation!"Model Y isn't big enough for my junk"
Model Y can tow, Model-E (oops, I mean Mach-E, Tesla hasn't finalized the purchase of Ford yet) can't. One can get a room-size trailer and tow all your 'stuff' with Model Y.
There’s a rigorous and somewhat pricey initiation process but it looks like you might have the stuff - keep your nose clean…OK I hate you all. But maybe can I join your Tesla club?
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