jmatero
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Here are some more:
6. Why temp controls on both sides when not set to “split”?
7. Menu windows lost the x to close.
8. HD indicator in radio useless (on/off both grey).
9. Lane change blocked when hands at 2 and 10.
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Holiday Update (2021.44.25.2)- A Big Disappointment
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6. Why temp controls on both sides when not set to “split”?
7. Menu windows lost the x to close.
8. HD indicator in radio useless (on/off both grey).
9. Lane change blocked when hands at 2 and 10.
TT97
Active Member
Are you wearing Pac-Man pants?
I've been pissed about this update for a couple days every time I get in the car. Why would you hide the efficiency tabs and buttons like heated seats that are available in every other car with one button press? Why have all my audio channels been hidden behind a drop-down menu? Speed and autopilot mode icons are now smaller and more difficult to tell what you are doing.
Worst of all, when I let off the accelerator now it slows down less quickly than before and I have to use the brakes a lot more. The little power bar seems a lot more sensitive as well. It sure seems like they toned down on the regeneration amount and force you to slow down over longer distances to get the same regen.
This update is terrible and I want my car back the way it was, it's a car not a damn cell phone. Stop changing the interface.
The execs at Tesla who don't drive Teslas should have all the buttons in their normal cars rearranged and a few of their favorite ones put inside their center console so they have to open it up first to reach them.
Worst of all, when I let off the accelerator now it slows down less quickly than before and I have to use the brakes a lot more. The little power bar seems a lot more sensitive as well. It sure seems like they toned down on the regeneration amount and force you to slow down over longer distances to get the same regen.
This update is terrible and I want my car back the way it was, it's a car not a damn cell phone. Stop changing the interface.
The execs at Tesla who don't drive Teslas should have all the buttons in their normal cars rearranged and a few of their favorite ones put inside their center console so they have to open it up first to reach them.
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This. This. 1000 times this.
Are all the slacker Tesla UI millennials ridin' low with one hand at the 6 o'clock?
How is looking at the screen vs looking in a mirror different with regard to “taking your eyes off the road” ?I thought people were asking for blind spot warning in the mirror, not a camera that requires us to take our eyes off the road. That's what I want - what I don't want is more things that require me to look at the screen. I'm still waiting to be able to answer the phone without using the screen.
There are lots of bad things to say about the new UI, but to me the thing that really shows the quality and thought they put into this is the sliding bad for AC.
If there was an actual meeting where someone suggested to use a slider bar while your drive and it had consensus, then this whole UI update is flawed.
Do you realize how absurd it is to show users a sliding bar while driving and how difficult it is to control it to do exactly what you want without having a car accident? It's a scroll bar! You have to touch it at the right place, then gently move it tiny bit right or left while not looking at the road! Even if I try real hard, it won't take me less than 3 seconds off the road!
If there was a book of "forbidden UI controls to put on touch screens while driving", slider bars was at the top of the list!
It's either no one at Tesla drives a Tesla, or they all use some sort of simulators with mouse clicks to simulate the screen.
Very disappointed. I hope that the Tesla folks are aware of these complaints.
If there was an actual meeting where someone suggested to use a slider bar while your drive and it had consensus, then this whole UI update is flawed.
Do you realize how absurd it is to show users a sliding bar while driving and how difficult it is to control it to do exactly what you want without having a car accident? It's a scroll bar! You have to touch it at the right place, then gently move it tiny bit right or left while not looking at the road! Even if I try real hard, it won't take me less than 3 seconds off the road!
If there was a book of "forbidden UI controls to put on touch screens while driving", slider bars was at the top of the list!
It's either no one at Tesla drives a Tesla, or they all use some sort of simulators with mouse clicks to simulate the screen.
Very disappointed. I hope that the Tesla folks are aware of these complaints.
Vin_L
Member
Who still drives with hands at 10-2……haven’t done that since drivers training…LOL
This new UI is bad and potentially dangerous. If you need to poke around the screen while driving, someone is going to get hurt (or worse).
I can see an indicator light in my peripheral vision - I don't actually have to look at the mirror to see it.
This sounds like a troll but ... in our Subaru I signal a left turn and as I check the mirror, before glancing over my left shoulder, the big yellow indicator is flashing which means something is in my blind spot. It's the natural way to change lanes to the left. Looking down and to the right to see an image that might be occluded by the steering wheel during a left change is less safe.
What's sad is this never had to be a problem. Tesla could have always provided a blind spot chime, a bit of wheel torque or even a convex mirror insert but apparently they forgot the "keep your eyes on the road, not on the controls" rule a long time ago.
Not everyone is you. Not everyone's lives are lived by your standards. Most people who don't like driving or who are older still drive 10/2 My parents drive in this manner as do many of my older relatives.
Don't generalize and be egocentric.
andaconda
Active Member
I'm 'old' and I use the 10 & 2 -- same way I drive on the motorcycle...
I feel the same way about the elimination of the X to close in the upper corner of the pop up windows. It is frustrating to have to close windows by dragging the tops down.
^^^ This.
It was hard enough to hit the tiny little X to close the windows before, now it is even more difficult to acquire and drag the top bar down while driving. There should be a universal "close" button that is easy to hit at any time - simple and predictably located.
gx9901
Active Member
My daughter got her driver's license this year, and if I recall correctly, they don't advocate driving with hands at 10-2 now. Something to do with airbag deployment safety, I think. I probably used to drive with hands at 10-2 a lot, and still do sometimes, but I try to position my hands lower on the steering wheel most of the time.
I'm someone who wished for the blind-spot camera on lane-change to be added by Tesla (basically copy what Hyundai does), but I've always thought of that as a "better than nothing" kind of deal. It's obviously not going to be ideal without the indicators on the side-view mirrors, but better than nothing. What I wish they would add is the chime being played when you turn on the turn signal and there's a car in the blind spot area. I don't know why they don't just implement that. As I understand, currently it only plays the chime if you almost hit the car in your blind-spot, which thankfully I have not experienced yet.
That's my interpretation. The system will take action if you're about to collide with an object in the adjacent lane. Correction rather than "prevention" as it were.
I agree. The blindspot camera is better than nothing but not as good as the chime you describe, and definitely not as good as an indicator in the side view mirrors.
As another poster mentioned, a vibration to the steering wheel would also work as a signal (like the chime you mentioned), and easier to implement in a future update than adding a signal in the mirror.
Clark_Kent
Member
I received the update a few days ago and have only been able to drive the car once for about 20 minutes round trip. There's some good, some bad with the update. It's a huge upgrade over the failed holiday update from last year that essentially only provided that stupid boombox I've yet to use. My primary issue is the blindspot monitoring. I was really looking forward to this feature. BLUF: The side repeater camera turning on with the turn signal activated is not a solution for blindspot monitoring. An indicator in the side mirror, like what every other manufacturer uses is the ticket. Even with the camera on, it's not always clear if you have enough room to make a lane change or how close the motorist in the next lane is to your car. The Honda LaneWatch feature discontinued in 2019 is much better than this. And one more thing...where is cross traffic alert? How does this car not have that?
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