Agreed, that's all they have from me at this point. I certainly wouldn't have the patience for a vehicle that has the quality problems like the X has. It seems older generations either accept it or rationalize it or I don't know what. I personally don't think my generation would put up with it.
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Agreed, that's all they have from me at this point. I certainly wouldn't have the patience for a vehicle that has the quality problems like the X has. It seems older generations either accept it or rationalize it or I don't know what. I personally don't think my generation would put up with it.
roblab
Active Member
Since the OP wanted to know if there were ANY satisfied owners, I will report for my daughter, since she is not a reader of TMC. I drove her X the other day for the first time, so I will say that I have not gone over the car with a fine toothed comb. Be that as it may, I have never gone over any car with any comb.
My daughter or her husband or any of the four kids have never complained about anything wrong. Once she texted me about the rear door not being locked to kids. I told her where to find the child door lock switch, which was off. That's about it. She has VIN 29** (since you all like *). She has, in a month, racked up 2500 miles. She was a little scared about doing a supercharger trip to LA, 400 miles, but reports that it was super easy.
My daughter or her husband or any of the four kids have never complained about anything wrong. Once she texted me about the rear door not being locked to kids. I told her where to find the child door lock switch, which was off. That's about it. She has VIN 29** (since you all like *). She has, in a month, racked up 2500 miles. She was a little scared about doing a supercharger trip to LA, 400 miles, but reports that it was super easy.
aesculus
Still Trying to Figure This All Out
I had the first year 2001 MDX purchased two months after it was released in 2000. It was a solid car and I had no real issues.
K-MTG
Sunshade Captain of TMC
I had a 2004 and 2014, the 2004 lasted 10 years, no issues except for the typical service.
Almost. I have had the X for about 3 weeks. The only issue I could find was a parking sensor (right front) that was seeing ghosts. Repaired yesterday. All is well now. All of my previous cars had issues upon delivery. Buicks, Porsches, Lexus. They all strive for perfection, but caca occurs. Very satisfied.
When I was a kid and my father got a new car, he would always start compiling a list of things that weren't right to get fixed when he took it in. The list was never all that long and nothing serious was ever on it, but there was always some little thing that wasn't right.
My Buick was the same. I bought it in 1992 and it still runs fine. But there were a few minor issues early on. The only one I can think of is the brake pedal squeaked in warm weather. It still does, they never managed to fix it and I just lived with it. It only happens when temps get up around 90F.
A car is probably the most complex pieces of machinery most people will ever own. There are lots of parts that all have to work with one another and quite a few of them need to move in concert with other parts. It's amazing there are as few problems as there are with all cars from all makers.
adiggs
Well-Known Member
I don't know one way or the other, but my first inclination is to think about this as the difference between people on the bleeding edge of adoption (innovators especially, and early adopters), vs. early majority.
From one point of view, even Model 3 will still be innovators in the adoption of electric vehicles (first few % of market).
The way I think about it, even of the % is lower than "standard" for the adoption curve, Model 3 adopters after the first 6 months or 50k cars or so, are definitely into the Early Adopters category, and most everybody with the $1k deposit is out into Early Adopters.
A characteristic of Innovators and Early Adopters for a given technology (and especially Innovators), is that they can and do see around and through imperfections. I don't say that as a good or bad thing - it's just a thing. Also worth noting that people aren't Innovators or Late Majority in everything all the time - I know I can't reasonably classify myself as anything but an Innovator (driving a Roadster for 3 years now, including up and down the west coast), but I'm Late Majority on cell phones (and grudging at that!).
It might be a generational thing, but if so, then it sort of implies that the younger generation is going to be more resistant to adopting new technology while it's still imperfect and being improved.
I'm hoping and expecting that Model 3 will be much better than the previous vehicles on initial vehicle quality, and I'm hopeful that it will be solid and reliably - all that Roadster / S / X experience available to inform what makes things reliable, and what makes them less so
I wouldn't bet on it - at least not for the first big pile of deliveries (considering the speed of the ramp - 6 months or 10-20k cars). (Not to say the initial build quality won't be good - only that if it's a must have, then I suggest also baking a delay into your own personal order to allow the Innovators have the initial build quality ups and downs at the beginning).
electricity
Member
systemcrashed
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It has not come back on, happened three times, I moved the seat fully through all its motions. I'm still scheduled to have it looked at.
K-MTG
Sunshade Captain of TMC
Got the seat latch warning for the first time when I picked the car from service today. I just moved the seats back from the touchscreen and all is good
systemcrashed
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As long as the blue button on the screen resets it then it is working properly. The problem some of us were having was that it was not going away after pressing the latch button on the alert.
K-MTG
Sunshade Captain of TMC
I notice that one of my 2nd row seats does not stop until it hits the 3rd row while the other stops right before impact
systemcrashed
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My second row has never hit my third row. When folding my third row down while second row is all the way back, the press of the third row latch release makes my second row move forward to make room for the third row to fold down.
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