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What was your previous car? I’ve normally bought Toyotas so that seems pretty normal.25K miles over 15 months--zero issues. It's almost eerie
Except you are on at least your 8th drive unit!260k km / 161k miles in 4 years. Never a breakdown. 100% reliable. I did have a few issues that were fixed under warranty but they were all cosmetic and I always had a free loaner car.
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It terms or reliability the Model S is as good as it gets IMHO.
Except you are on at least your 8th drive unit!
6th drive unit replacement and more
Drive Unit Replacement Poll
That's TERRIBLE, in my book.
Before I even think about purchasing a Model S, I wanted to get some real feedback on the reliability of this car.
So, to you MS owners out there, that have owned the car over 1 year+, can you give me a reasonable idea of what types of problems you've experienced and tell me what my expectations should be in terms of repairs/expenses IF I were to pull the trigger and buy a used MS ?
He asked about his experiences and you answered like this:Those were issues that were covered under warranty and the drive unit I have had for almost 2 years now has not made a noise for 80k miles. The drive unit never failed! A DU replacement is not equivalent to an engine replacement in an ICE car. Yes we all know about the initial issues with the drive units. They are fixed now and if you buy a Tesla now (used or new) they are fine. Yes I was annoyed back then but a buyer now will not have any of these issues. What's the point of bringing up issues that doesn't exist any more?
Uhh... Being on your 8th DU is not anywhere near "as good as it gets". Ask a typical owner of a Toyota or Honda with a known good reliability record. They will also agree that what you experienced is frankly TERRIBLE, in comparison.260k km / 161k miles in 4 years. Never a breakdown. 100% reliable. I did have a few issues that were fixed under warranty but they were all cosmetic and I always had a free loaner car....
It terms or reliability the Model S is as good as it gets IMHO.
Half-shaft: $1240.00 (each)How big?
Half-shaft: $1240.00 (each)
Hub bearing assy: 230.00 (each)
Labor & misc.: 481.25 (each side)
Also I neglected to mention in my previous post that right now I have a few issues. I don't think they're out of the ordinary for a 124,000+ mile vehicle: LH tie rod end (~$80.00) & upper ball joint (~$275 - cannot purchase ball joints, must replace control arms). Replacing myself, against Tesla's "strongly recommend" they do it. Additionally I suspect I may need a front wheel bearing, and I have a rattle in the RR I haven't figured out yet, over moderate bumps. Might be just something loose, but could be a bushing somewhere.
Oh ya, I had the steering rack motor mount bolts break. That should be covered under the recall. Didn't prevent me from driving to a performance that night, but I replaced the bolts the next day as a temporary fix.
So reiterating my original post, I have had issues but it never left me stranded and always drives when I get in; which is the most important aspect of reliability IMO.
30,000+ miles on a 2015 S70D in nearly 3 years. Nothing has prevented driving the car except a flat tire (not specific to Tesla).
Had one damaged tie rod end that was replaced, but even that was driveable, just noisy.
Otherwise, just 3 or 4 annoying things -- 2 door handles, which were inconvenient but I could still drive the car. Minor adjustment in the sunroof, and one door gasket had to be reattached in one place, not long after delivery.
So, my car has been extremely reliable so far. No 12V battery issues, no shutdowns that stopped the car. Maybe I got a good one, or maybe the satisfied folks are just busy driving their cars and living their lives and not posting to social media.
I do have the steering bolt recall, which is to be addressed later in the year once the parts are available, but that seems to be a precaution, and I have had no symptoms, so am not worried.
And of course my car will eventually get an airbag replacement, i think, but again that has yet to be scheduled on my car.
The late 2015 cars like mine might be in a sweet spot -- well-proven design, AP1 installed, Michelin tires, still had leather seats, etc.