HW2.5 even after April 12th build date

[Matias]

But Elon said that all cars as of 4/12 will have HW3 at the investor’s conference so going back to using HW2.5 would make it appear as if Elon lied to us. If they have truly gone back to using HW2.5 without providing any communication to customers to let them know this really does not make Tesla look good. At some point when the CEO tells you something it has to mean something.

 

[Matias]

This is Musk's tweet from April 22:
Tesla on Twitter
All Tesla cars being built today

He didn’t not say anything about the next day

 

[vickh]

My DA said all US M3 bulit in May/June have 3.0 now. I will confirm when I get it next week

 

[MXWing]

He didn’t not say anything about the next day

This.

My DA said all US M3 bulit in May/June have 3.0 now. I will confirm when I get it next week

Unless your DA installed the computer himself / herself...

Be optimistic but guard your heart!

 

[vickh]

Unless your DA installed the computer himself / herself...

Be optimistic but guard your heart!

that's a potential dealbreaker for me, since I'm not getting FSD but I think it might help with resale down the road. I have it documented in the email so hopefully they'll install it for me/ due bill if not.

 

[MXWing]

that's a potential dealbreaker for me, since I'm not getting FSD but I think it might help with resale down the road. I have it documented in the email so hopefully they'll install it for me/ due bill if not.

Have you heard of anyone getting HW3 listed on a due bill for any purchases?

Serious question because it’s good for you if you can lock it down.

My prediction is in the case you don’t have HW3 Tesla would just say it’s not used so no due bill.

You can try and return the car and roll the dice again but I think the benefits are dubious. Reason is below:

The “new” AP is far less capable than the old “EAP” and a reason for this is Tesla wants to guarantee that all the HW2.5 cars floating around doesn’t generate lawsuits for delivering non FSD capabilities.

 

[vickh]

Are all June builds 3.0?

 

[willow_hiller]

Are all June builds 3.0?

At this point, I think it's dependent on country and battery size. Most LR owners are reporting HW3 regardless of location, and some Canadian SR+ owners are reporting HW2.5. My best guess is that Tesla is putting their spare HW2.5 modules in the lower range models to save money.

 

[xasroma]

I have not found were to see H264 or 265. my computer only says HEVC. assuming its new hardware?

 

[boonedocks]

I have not found were to see H264 or 265. my computer only says HEVC. assuming its new hardware?

I am guessing H265 is in fact HEVC. I was trying to get that answer as well and found this:

HEVC (H.265) vs. AVC (H.264) - What’s the Difference?

 

[sixela]

My DA said all US M3 bulit in May/June have 3.0 now. I will confirm when I get it next week

All the cars made end of April that were shipped to Europe were HW3, but some later cars made in May then had HW2.5 again. So "all" is probably too strongly worded.

 

[vickh]

At this point, I think it's dependent on country and battery size. Most LR owners are reporting HW3 regardless of location, and some Canadian SR+ owners are reporting HW2.5. My best guess is that Tesla is putting their spare HW2.5 modules in the lower range models to save money.

I need a fremont factory insider like @GigaGrunt to give us an answer as far June US SR builds.

I guess I'll know soon enough if I check out the USB video file right.

 

[xasroma]

Seems most performance models in the US were built with 3.0 based on forums feedback.

 

[GigaGrunt]

I need a fremont factory insider like @GigaGrunt to give us an answer as far June US SR builds.

I guess I'll know soon enough if I check out the USB video file right.

Cars being built currently have either 2.5 or 3.0 in them. What's the difference currently? FSD isn't available. If you buy FSD now, and have a car with 2.5, you get the new hardware free. If you don't buy FSD and have a car with 3.0, its useless....doesnt increase resale value. If you pay more for a used car based on that alone....then I have a bridge to sell you with a water front view.

 

[Kant.Ing]

Until someone really does a teardown on a HW3 unit and Tesla starts releasing differentiating FSD features, you cannot say that "HW3" is better than HW2.5--maybe APH4 now comes with both nVidia and Tesla chips, and APH5 will be native. Yup, I have no idea.

 

[aiya]

Here is a link to a teardown of the HW3 module:

Tesla's New HW3 Self-Driving Computer — It's A Beast (CleanTechnica Deep Dive) | CleanTechnica

edit: well...less of a teardown and more of an analysis.

 

[electronblue]

It seems Design Studio now confirms FSD Computer is not guaranteed for non-FSD Model 3s as standard:

Interesting that Tesla now lists the FSD (AP3) computer as part of the FSD package if you get it after delivery. Is this confirmation that Tesla is getting ready to do the AP3 upgrades that we've been waiting for? Seems so.

 

[vickh]

Cars being built currently have either 2.5 or 3.0 in them. What's the difference currently? FSD isn't available. If you buy FSD now, and have a car with 2.5, you get the new hardware free. If you don't buy FSD and have a car with 3.0, its useless....doesnt increase resale value. If you pay more for a used car based on that alone....then I have a bridge to sell you with a water front view.

Is it in Brooklyn

Jokes aside, Is Tesla assigning 2.5 to SRs as a cost saving? or is it random?

 

[OCR1]

Cars being built currently have either 2.5 or 3.0 in them. What's the difference currently? FSD isn't available. If you buy FSD now, and have a car with 2.5, you get the new hardware free. If you don't buy FSD and have a car with 3.0, its useless....doesnt increase resale value. If you pay more for a used car based on that alone....then I have a bridge to sell you with a water front view.

It’s disappointing that so many people based their decisions on when to buy a Model 3 on the tweet from Elon stating that cars are being installed with HW3 as of April 12th, only to learn from an employee in the company that their CEO outright lied. Very disappointing.

 

[boonedocks]

It’s disappointing that so many people based their decisions on when to buy a Model 3 on the tweet from Elon stating that cars are being installed with HW3 as of April 12th, only to learn from an employee in the company that their CEO outright lied. Very disappointing.

I hate to be the one to say it but.......you absolutely can NOT base any decision about buying a Tesla and or Tesla expectations on an elon tweet. :/