Agreed but some want the 3P- as a budget build so they can add better aftermarket brakes and 19” performance wheels and tires for track use.
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M3P- . What is it, how to order it, etc.
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AlanSubie4Life
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Probably quite a few! For those who like to autocross, all they have to do is put some quality summer high performance tires on the car and it should do great. Should be no worries on significant overheat on most autocross courses. Typically on autocross courses there is not long, heavy brake use, and the much lower speeds dramatically reduce energy dissipation requirements.
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robo_robb
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jebinc
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Tesla should really hire a few Performance marketing folks. They do a poor job of marketing their "Performance" trims, 3P- and 3P+. There should be detailed specs on these cars. They should call out the details on the brakes, like rotor size, 1 piece or 2 piece, brake caliper details, type of brake pads, etc. Stopping distances between the cars with PS4 Performance tires and ECO tires. They should call out the suspension details. Shocks, springs rates, sway bar details. If there are indeed differences between the motors then what are they?
Yeah, it is all a mystery. We have to sit here on the forums and hypothesize about motor differences, firmware revisions, etc. Every auto manufacturer web site has a details chart with each trim with all the specs. In the Tesla world this seems to be maintained by some helpful forum members in a constantly changing Excel spreadsheet. I don't understand how a company can make such a great car but they can't publish an accurate specs sheet with all the content in each trim.
It is a guess whether you will have floor mats, Homelink, NEMA adapters, USB cables, etc. Then there is the mystery of SR, SR+ and Premium audio. 7 speakers, 8 speakers, 14 speakers, Immersive audio, non-immersive. What speakers work and don't work? And if you are going to sell something called Immersive audio, why not explain what it even is and how it enhances audio quality?
If you are not a forum member on here then you would have no clue what is going on. For example, folks are buying M3P- because of the knowledge sharing here. How many new LR AWD owners will be pissed when they wander onto the forum here and find out that they could have had a M3P- for only $2k extra?
Not me. I wanted the Performance speed and power but care less about track mode, spoiler, brakes, etc.
This is exactly me to a "T". I only want the speed and don't want the other stuff at all. I'm just scared stiff if I hold for to long it won't be a possibility?
jebinc
Well-Known Member
LR AWD with a build date of 6/19 showing a 990 rear motor. Was really hoping for a possible P3D- software unlock
Very unlikely now.
Knightshade
Well-Known Member
You mean the ones that only exist in some peoples imaginations?
The fact Tesla appears to using a different part number when they actually include a functionally different part (just as they have always done for every OTHER part in every car they ever made- and just as every OTHER manufacturer does too) seems to confirm the fact they were not using functionally different parts previously....a 980 DU is a 980 DU, functionally equivalent no matter which car it was installed in.
AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
What will make a 2018 AWD owner the most sad? A rear motor failure, with the replacement motor being a 990 reman motor...
...leaving them out in the cold.
Going to be a tricky logistical road if Tesla ever wants to offer the upgrade. Seems unlikely they will...there would be too many upset owners all around. Unless of course the 990 motor is perfectly capable of P power levels. (Though there is circumstantial evidence it is not.)
eustachio
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There are. pm me if you need my SA's info. She's located in CA.
jvmoore1
Member
The service center I am picking my M3P- up at had a whole parking lot full. Think every one I looked at was a M3P-.
Not sure how many were already sold though
There are plenty out there in wild. By any means Tesla doesn’t have ridiculous M3 demand as they had before Dec 31 and somewhat lesser by Jun 30 due to Federal Tax rebates.
Just call your local SC and they can find one either in stock at SC or can get from another lot.
scubastevo80
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What will make a 2018 AWD owner the most sad? A rear motor failure, with the replacement motor being a 990 reman motor...
...leaving them out in the cold.
Going to be a tricky logistical road if Tesla ever wants to offer the upgrade. Seems unlikely they will...there would be too many upset owners all around. Unless of course the 990 motor is perfectly capable of P power levels. (Though there is circumstantial evidence it is not.)
What about a partial upgrade, whereby owners of AWD's could get some increased performance that is better than standard AWD but doesn't equate to a 3.2s 0-60mph time? I guess we need to know what the max theoretical output of a 990 motor is versus the 980. If the max output truly is the 4.2-4.4s 0-60, then I guess no upgrade. If those motors are limited by software but still have higher output capability, there's still a chance an upgrade could be offered... whether Tesla does it or not is another story.
For all the software/coding gurus out there, is there anyway to piggyback the system to unlock max rear motor power for the older 980 motors?
jebinc
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It's possible, as the LR AWD, after that 5% freebie a while back, is now a 4sec 0-60 car. Getting us to 3.x, via upgrade is possible, but I see a 3.2sec upgrade as improbably now.
eustachio
Member
Placed a deposit on a P3- today
Thanks @shiftkenny for connecting me with your OA, she was awesome!
My own OA has been unresponsive since Friday. He finally texted me back today, after I had placed a deposit via the other OA.
Thanks @shiftkenny for connecting me with your OA, she was awesome!
My own OA has been unresponsive since Friday. He finally texted me back today, after I had placed a deposit via the other OA.
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