mhan00
Active Member
Only nitpick about 10.3.1 so far is that I can’t tell the difference between chill and assertive. Small sample size, though. Only drove about 20 miles today.
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Same issue here with 10.3.1/2021.36.5.3 on Model S Raven LR (Error Notification APP_w207, Autosteer temporarily unavailable).Multiple reboots with various options of AEB, FCW, Sentry enabled/disabled. Still haven't found the right combo.
Tesla literally sends all of us an email telling us the Beta is in early access testing and that it can and will do the wrong thing at the wrong time at anytime and we have to be ready and able to take over every millisecond it is in Beta. I guess some people just ignore that or don’t take it seriously for some reason?There seems to be a somewhat common misunderstanding of what ‘beta testing’ means (and how it’s different than production products like Tesla AP that are still labeled as beta e.g. - games like TF2 for 10 years, Google Gmail for 5.5 years, many Google products for that matter, etc.)
Issues like this 10.3 rollout should be expected (or at least unsurprising) for anyone familiar with beta testing.
I might need to re-calibrate my cameras again.I would agree with the car seems to enjoy driving down the middle of an unmarked road and I did notice it would follow fairly closely even when I’m set at 7. I stopped at several stop signs and had no issues.
Try changing the aggression setting to "Chill". Mine was automatically set to "Assertive".I would agree with the car seems to enjoy driving down the middle of an unmarked road and I did notice it would follow fairly closely even when I’m set at 7. I stopped at several stop signs and had no issues.
Who knows if it’s just mapping? I only did the one drive and it was excellent at stops.I might need to re-calibrate my cameras again.
Since I am not a software engineer, I made the assumption that I was getting basically the current production vision release with the FSD code "on top". The warnings seem geared to when using the FSD features. I assumed that if FSD Beta was too crazy, I could just turn off the features in the UI and be back to running the production code.Tesla literally sends all of us an email telling us the Beta is in early access testing and that it can and will do the wrong thing at the wrong time at anytime and we have to be ready and able to take over every millisecond it is in Beta. I guess some people just ignore that or don’t take it seriously for some reason?
Since I am not a software engineer, I made the assumption that I was getting basically the current production vision release with the FSD code on top. The warnings seem geared to when using the FSD features. I assumed that if FSD Beta was too crazy, I could just turn off the features in the UI and be back to running the production code.
The fact that a large FSD bug manifested while driving manually with all FSD features turned off was alarming to me and honestly, I wouldn't have signed up for the beta if I had realized I had to be prepared for the car to do thenwrong thing at the worst time even when driving completely manually. I havent even accepted the disclaimers on my car since I haven't toggled any FSD features on yet, I wanted to spend a week or so seeing how the vision AP was different first.
You sure you're on the newly released (today) version (10.3.1), not the one rolled back (10.3)?Whenever I have to intervene while on Beta FSD navigation mode, I lose complete FSD Beta function. Vanishes switched show enabled but won’t work again.
Tried parking getting out of car etc start a new drive nothing?!?!
Are you using yesterday's firmware release or the one released this morning?Whenever I have to intervene while on Beta FSD navigation mode, I lose complete FSD Beta function. Vanishes switched show enabled but won’t work again.
Tried parking getting out of car etc start a new drive nothing?!?!
Seems a bit more confident with easy right handers, but none of my issues from 10.2 have been resolved. In fact, a narrow left-hander that i had learned to trust on 10.2 no longer inspires the same level of confidence for me on 10.3.1, so I have been disengaging, and there are a few other areas that worked before that no longer work. So all in all...I'd say 10.3.1 is more of a regression for me than improved...sigh...Has anyone noticed any bug fixes in 10.3.1 vs 10.2 ?
Yet to take the car around to see if any of the issues I get near my house got fixed.
Just now discovering this thread. Here is a list of some of my experiences so far since getting the beta on Sunday night. This is not an exhaustive list.
There's been plenty more hitches and glitches, but you get the idea. For me, a good drive is far more rare than a bad one. Obviously I flag all of these for the Autopilot team.
- While following a rightward bend on a residential street, car appeared to not see a vehicle parked on the passenger (right-hand) side and came uncomfortably close with no sign of stopping. Disengaged by pulling the steering wheel away.
- While making a right turn onto a street, car attempted to use a wide bike lane entrance on the right hand side separated by a concrete median as the turning lane. Disengaged via steering wheel.
- While traveling through the same intersection, but this time going straight, car attempted to merge into the left-turn only lane. Disengaged.
- Coming up to make a U-turn at an intersection with two lanes going straight and one left-turn only lane. Straight lanes had a green light, left-turn only lane had a red left turn arrow. Car got into the left-turn only lane, and did not brake at all. I gave it as much time as I safely could to see what the vehicle would do, but it gave no indication of stopping. Also, it gave no indication that it was going to perform a U-turn. This has by far been the biggest head-scratcher for me.
- While traveling down a two-lane (one in each direction) road that widens to add a bike lane with parked cars, car veered into the bike lane and appeared that it would hit a parked vehicle. Disengaged via steering wheel.
- Multiple instances of phantom braking, usually with tree shadows on the road.
- Multiple instances of hard stops about 15 feet prior to traffic control intersections - stop signs, traffic lights, even unprotected left turn lanes.
Same, I put it in Chill profile and it still rolls through stop signs. Maybe it's a slightly slower speed (3mph?), I can't really tell easily but I expected it would stop rolling stops.Only nitpick about 10.3.1 so far is that I can’t tell the difference between chill and assertive. Small sample size, though. Only drove about 20 miles today.