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Discussion in 'Belgium and the Netherlands' started by S-19910, Sep 17, 2014.

  1. S-19910

    S-19910 Driving Model-S #19910

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    Maybe pm @Matteo ?
     
  2. bambam4171

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    Thanks, done that :)
     
  3. shoot72

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    Voor wat het waard is heb ik een nieuwe 100D even naar de 100% gebracht (niet gewacht tot hij klaar was, stond nog met 2kW te druppelen) en kwam nu uit 509 km typical range mode uit. Nog een ingaven in de sheet, dus die ook maar even toegevoegd.
     
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    Darren S Active Member

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    Ik heb een vraag over de spreadsheet. Is er een beheerder die ik kan contacteren? (hopefully translated from "I have a question about the spreadsheet. Is there an Admin I can contact?")
     
  6. x4er0

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    Dat is grappig, ik heb ook een 100D en die komt ook exact uit op 509KM als hij voor 100% is volgeladen :p

    edit: nog leuker is is dat wij exact dezelfde config hebben, exterieur en interieur exact hetzelfde enkel de velgen niet, toevallig ook een xpel ultimate full wrap?
     
  7. robertvg

    robertvg Robert van Gent

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    That would be @Merijn or @Matteo, you can send them a direct message.
     
  8. Darren S

    Darren S Active Member

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    Thank you.
     
  9. PaulW5

    PaulW5 *****Driver

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    Die van mij gaf vorige week 512 aan maar als ik haar op 100% zet en hij meld dat ze klaar is. Dan even via app even kabel onlocken en laden weer starten dan is hij nog 5-10 aan het bijdruppelen en is ze is 100% vol.
     
  10. TheSiemNL

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    Wat zou de range moeten zijn voor een Tesla S 85 met 280.000km?
     
  11. Wim S.

    Wim S. Supporting Member

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    Energie Gratiz kan je dit vertellen, die zit met zijn huidige accu rond die km stand.
     
  12. CO2CLEAN

    CO2CLEAN Olivier Willemsen

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    Op basis van de data in de sheet, zo'n 91% van origineel.
    MaxRange Tesla battery survey
     
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    Mijne haalt 354 km bij 100% (zonder trucen met nadruppelen). KM 272.000
     
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    Maar wat was originele range van een S 85 classic (sept 2014) of hoor ik dat te weten :)
     
  16. Andre

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    395-400km when new.
     
  17. x4er0

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    Ok, geloven wij dit als nuchtere nederlanders: An explanation to supercharging advantage for batteries.

    Dus superchargen is goed en heel langzaam laden, oftewel 3x16A.

    Ik ben sowieso van mening dat onze 100% nooit echt 100% is en dat ze net als een SSD een buffer hebben gereserveerd, dus 100% laden is niet schadelijk want hij is niet echt 100% (fool proof). Volgens mij is de 100kW batterij een 102kW batterij dus een buffer van 2kW, klopt dit?
     
  18. CO2CLEAN

    CO2CLEAN Olivier Willemsen

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    100% bij Tesla is daadwerkelijk 100%, daarom adviseert Tesla ook om tot 90% op te laden tenzij je de laatste 10% nodig hebt. Snelladen zal echt wel iets minder goed zijn voor batterij dan langzaam laden, maar blijkbaar is de kwaliteit van de Tesla batterij dusdanig goed dat het verschil heel klein is. Ik verwacht dat bij meer data, langzaam duidelijk wordt dat superchargen wel een kleine negatieve impact heeft. Ik ben geen batterij expert, maar volgens mij is een van de vuistregels dat snelladen minder goed is dan langzaam laden.
     
  19. Go4IT

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    Even if lithium batteries age much better than expected, the numbers quoted in the article referred to above are not realistic in my view. Maybe they forgot the km/mi conversion. When quoting 160.000m (= 250.000km) there are only a handful such cars in the Google spreadsheet, not representative at all.

    While reality is not as promising, it is still nice. As a not-so-caring early adopter (several 0% and 100% every week since 5 years), my observation would tend to be more around 15-18% capacity loss after over 300.000km and, more importantly, an gradual increase in degradation rate as when new (since 280.000 in my case, that is why I stopped filling the Google spreadsheet for the time being). I monitor battery through CanBUS and noticed a problem with one of the 16 modules building the pack (all of its 6 groups reach max and min voltage faster than groups from other modules) which greatly influences performance of the whole pack. It will always be time to check with Tesla about warranty but, for now, I first want to experience the pack further.

    One may say that I am not careful enough with the pack but I bought a long range EV at a high price so why would I refrain myself from using it to its full capacity just for the sake of extending its lifetime? It would anyway be the kind of lifetime that we have never seen with ICE cars. In the future, I expect the average EV drive to be as careless as me anyhow ;-)
     
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  20. Go4IT

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    Furthering my observations about recently observed increase in degradation rate (probably due to that bad module), I now expect to see a horizontal S-shaped curve for high-millage packs. Much different than the asymptotic curve with zero degradation in the long term often suggested on the forums? Who would expect that to happen? Simply not realistic!

    So the quoted 80% remaining capacity after 500.000 mi (i.e. 800.000 km) in the article is simply not realistic!

    Anyhow, the probability to have the (old) car totalled will be much higher than to have still on the road by then…
     

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