But lacking a dashboard panel, a HUD is not the only way to get dashboard or entertainment info in view. There could easily be some kind of steering column display. It makes sense.
Steering Column Display in Model 3
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Steering Column Display in Model 3
3Victoria
Active Member
Except that would be a second display which was ruled out on the investors call. But hey, nobody but the Tesla designers know, and they seem to keeping their cards close.
Wolverinegeoff
Member
It's just mixed messages from them that are causing a lot of this hoopla. If there really was no "killer feature" and it was just a slightly more refined interior than we've already seen and put our $1,000 down on, why push the "Reveal" until so close to launch? If it really is the same, there's no reason to not hold it 3/31 instead of July. It's not like 10,000 people that were going to buy an S/X in the next 3-4 months are going to say, "WOW that's almost exactly the same as what I saw over a year ago, I'm DEFINITELY going to wait a year or more now and get on the list for a 3 rather than getting my S". The anti-selling makes no sense unless there is something unseen that might actually sway buyers who don't already have a deposit to put one down and wait for it. Telling us the battery pack options wouldn't cause a drop in S/X sales, as we already have an idea of what they will be and approximate ranges.
So, anyone who wanted to upgrade later would have to return to SC to get HUD installed? Possible, but I doubt it.
ModelNforNerd
Active Member
that flies directly in the face of "ease to manufacture".
i think at this point, all cars will be getting the same AP-related hardware, and whether or not it's active for you depends on if you buy the software upgrade.
So we're either all going to have the hardware for a HUD, or it's not going to be on the car at all.
Presumably, the concern is not so much about selling, but providing info to the competition.
ModelNforNerd
Active Member
Or the functionality could be in plug-and-play, modular form under a panel.
Wolverinegeoff
Member
Definitely possible, but the automotive industry is so slow with this stuff I'm not sure it makes a difference to Tesla and their sales. Most of the big manufacturers are on 3+yr cycles. Tesla's flexibility in this respect is one of their big advantages!
On some models the dash is the same wether the car has the optional hud or not. If it does not have it a small cover is placed instead of the hud projector. This helps simplify production and reduce production complexity and reduce unique parts.
You could even see Tesla have the wiring for a hud in place and a service center could add the hud later at additional expense.
You could even see Tesla have the wiring for a hud in place and a service center could add the hud later at additional expense.
ModelNforNerd
Active Member
Other OEMs do this for things like steering wheel controls. All of the cars are wired for them. It's just a matter of you purchasing the option for them to install the buttons on your steering wheel.
It's possible, but now that I think about it, the windshield needs to accommodate a HUD as well. Not sure what the cost of coating would be, but if they don't use the same windshield, gonna be expensive to "upgrade".
I wonder if all cars with a hud have a special windshield or if there is hud technology that does not require a unique windshield design? I will say some lower cost cars have a small acrylic screen above the cluster that the hud is displayed on. Mazda uses this type. Not sure how well it works.
Must be less expensive than a special windshield.
And the projector and screen are one unit.
Must be less expensive than a special windshield.
And the projector and screen are one unit.
Wolverinegeoff
Member
I believe there has to be some sort of coating that increases contrast so that the light doesn't fly through the clear windshield.
stopcrazypp
Well-Known Member
Here's a picture and video. However it is optional and for 2017 only comes with the Grand Touring trim in the Mazda3, which is $24195 ($5300 more than $18895 for Sport and $2600 more than $21495 Touring). So hard to say it is inexpensive or not.
Heads-Up Display - 2014 Mazda 3 Long-Term Road Test
I've been looking at some of the third party HUDs and those and the ones above seem to work well mostly at night. Anyone got an example of one (third party or a car with one) that works in all conditions? Because we're talking about using it where we want it to always work, not as an extra, add-on, nice-to-have data-on-the-windshield accessory that can be used under some conditions.
If this is sold as 'the' main screen (you know what I mean) to any extent, it needs to be excellent. Is the state of the there yet?
If this is sold as 'the' main screen (you know what I mean) to any extent, it needs to be excellent. Is the state of the there yet?
I think both terms are used interchangeably in the US. Head-up display - Wikipedia
- Oxford Dictionary of English, Angus Stevenson, Oxford University Press – 2010, page 809 (head-up display (N.Amer. also heads-up display))
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