chronopc
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What's the battery size? I'm curious how efficient the Kona is compared to Tesla vehicles.
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JeffK
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chronopc
Active Member
Not bad. It's more efficient than the Model S and X. Not as efficient as the Model 3 though.
Where does that number come from?
The last time they show us the gauges is at 2:05 in the video, after the car has driven 260.8 km on something over half the pack (started at 82%, exact final percentage not shown.) They show 7.9 km/kWh - almost 5 miles per kWh, or just over 200 Wh/mile - seemingly quite impressive stuff.
They also show that the 260.8 km took 4:50 hours - 290 minutes, meaning the average speed was 54 kph - about 34 mph. Any EV gets really impressive numbers at those sorts of speeds, unless it's being driven very aggressively in stop and go traffic.
chronopc
Active Member
This is what the note of the video says according to google translate:
Kona Electric ran a 260-kilometer charge from the Chilgok rest stop in Gyeongbuk province to the Songpa-gu Asian park in Seoul. This is an experiment different from the one that I drove to the air blowing mode instead of the air conditioning mode in Seoul - Busan no charge mode.
As a result, Kona Electric has confirmed that it can travel at least 413km even when it operates the air conditioner.
It is said that air conditioner is the biggest enemy of electric car mileage. Depending on the temperature of the individual, the fuel consumption of the individual, the electric car can go farther and shorter.
If you have prejudices about electric cars, I hope you see this video.
Bjorn's review is out!
Two hours of video, I can't watch it all today.
Two hours of video, I can't watch it all today.
C141medic
Active Member
I just test drove a 2018 Nissan Leaf with “pro-pilot assist” today and it experienced the same ping ponging you described with the Kona. What was also interesting is that the pro-pilot was engaged and I was traveling approximately 48MPH approaching a traffic light. It started to rain and the pro-pilot system immediately disengaged without warning. Apparently it doesn’t work in rain. If I wasn’t attentive I could’ve easily rear ended the car in front of me rather than expecting the Leaf to brake as the car in front was slowing down. I’ll take Tesla’s EAP and TACC any day over Nissan’s system.
JeffK
Well-Known Member
It's certainly a compact car. The Niro might be more your size, or the new Leaf.
Performance is good, over 90kW of regen, charging speed tapers quite late, quality feel and build, good head unit... It's very competitive.
The Niro seems to share a lot of the tech so I'd expect it to be pretty similar. A little less efficient, more space.
Performance is good, over 90kW of regen, charging speed tapers quite late, quality feel and build, good head unit... It's very competitive.
The Niro seems to share a lot of the tech so I'd expect it to be pretty similar. A little less efficient, more space.
This whole comparison thing needs a bit more thought.
It is not useful to simply compare to the most recent EV - the Model 3 is a bigger, heavier car carrying a larger battery with a larger motor.
By that logic the Kona is better than the Model X but they are completely different vehicles.
I like Hyundai, I’ve driven the Ioniq a lot and I’m pleased that EV buyers have more options today, but this silly comparison stuff is irrelevant when some of us will never buy the Kona because of its small size etc and want what the Model 3 offers.
JeffK
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Anyone know the reason for the name Niro? Seems too close to Nero the emperor associated with the great fire of Rome.
clostridium
Member
Yeah, I’d love tesla to do AA and CP. People could choose to use it or not. I know lots of people have all these reasons for why they shouldn’t do it but I’m not buying any of them. Perhaps if they could concoct a reasonable interface to work with my phone it would matter but they haven’t done that despite several years of updates. It’s especially inexcusable considering the upgrade capability of the cars.
I love my car but definitely not this aspect of it. This is the first car I’ve owned where I felt it necessary to have a smartphone mount so I can access my phone easily while driving. This plus the lack of ability to have multiple waypoints in the nav system. It’s a joke.
The comparison is because the M3 SR with AP is in the same price bracket. It's a bit more expensive than a fully loaded Kona, but people looking in that price range will want to compare the two.
Granted the M3 SR will probably be a bit more efficient due to having a lighter battery, but it's not going to make up the fairly wide gap with the Kona.
It's also quite surprising because the Kona is significantly taller than the M3. For me that's really important - the S is way too low for comfort, the X is okay but obviously costs 4-5x as much as a Kona and the cheapest 75kWh model has less range. As seen with the Ioniq, Hyundai really do appear to have mastered making slippery, efficient cars.
Fair enough, I guess it is horses for courses etc etc
Ioniq could be a bit peppier though - it's a bit placid for me at low speeds, a bit...tepid? Slushy?Fair enough, I guess it is horses for courses etc etc
The performance seems to be far above the Ioniq. That car has a much smaller battery and less powerful motor.
Official 0-100 time is 7.6 seconds but I'll wait for someone to put that to the test.
Lasairfion
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Have you considered using "A Better Routeplanner"?
Blog Posts – About A Better Routeplanner
Now You Know spoke to the programmer who created it here:
I believe the Model 3 still doesn't have a browser so you couldn't run it in-car, but it does have a lot of options tied to your car if you log in with a Tesla temporary key (token).
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diamond.g
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I would be surprised if it is under 7 seconds. Supposedly the Bolt weighs a lot less and has the same amount of hp. It is like a second faster to 60 mph than the Kona EV is listed at, but I think that comes down to gearing as it has a lower top speed than the Kona EV as well. Not sure if the 30 additional foot pounds will help all that much.
Against the BMX X1/X3 it does appear to be more pokey.
