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Minor DCU tidbit for anyone interested.
I uploaded my MVPA of my now defunct VIN and my driver's license - got a call about 10 minutes later to go over the loan. i "confessed" the vin was revoked, so the phone person thought i was getting pre-qualified - i explained i actually had a vin and vehicle and it was yanked away.
upshot - i upload the new MVPA when i get it.
funding can be done same day and a check fedexed to me, tesla, or multiple checks as i desire.
also, even with a trade in, etc. they'd be willing to loan me the full amount (which is actually more than my purchase price) and i can pocket the difference - at 1.24% i think of it as free money.
he also mentioned the MVPA i uploaded was missing info, i.e. something like dollar amounts, etc. which i didn't quite understand, as it is all in my existing but useless MVPA.
i need to re-read how folks have done this - right now i have cash selected as my payment option. if i trade in, then i need less cash. i might bring a dcu check for $98k or so and call it a day - give it to tesla, and get a refund what, a few weeks later? or should i have dcu send a substantial (90 to 95% of the purchase amount to tesla in Texas, and then i bring some sort of certified payment, the idea being that i don't complete payment if i reject a clunker of a car?

or, i can have DCU cut a check in essentially whatever denomination i want, so i can short tesla and then get some certified checks or bank checks to make up the difference - i've seen folks uncertain about how much to pay or bring.
i welcome any suggestions or advice.
For those wondering, MVPA stands for “moderate to vigorous physical activity“. DCU is Digital Credit Union. And HSICFIO stands for “holy smokes I can’t figure it out”.🙃
 
Well, I’m not staying up waiting for a tweet that nothing’s coming today, so…..


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I just paid for the Model S online after getting the vin number tonight. Order was done a couple of weeks back but since I had placed it with my local service advisor and not directly online, the SA was able to assign me a vin. It was supposed to be July delivery but working with a SA is absolutely worth it , and at no additional cost to the buyer. I think they get some credit from tesla. He had done test drives on the Y and 3 for me.

Question. Now that I have already transferred the funds , what excuse can I use to not take delivery of the car until Jan 1st. Hoping the new tax bill for 2023 May again given EV discounts to Tesla if purchased in 2023. Thanks.
 
Okay so I picked the car up at 3:30 and have already put > 150 miles on it. Some thoughts...

Delivery Process
  • No waiting, greeted by multiple people who were very friendly
  • Delivery person informed me right away that key fobs and parcel shelf were missing and on backorder.
    • The trunk floor was present. Parcel shelf and left side cover missing.
    • When I got home I found 2 key fobs in the glove box.
  • I showed them the delivery checklist and said I would be a while and they encouraged me to take my time and give feedback
  • After inspection they made sure the app was set up and working. A tech came to look at my issues (more later) and was mostly supportive but didn't seem hugely knowledgable.
  • They told me multiple times to make sure feedback is in first 100 miles/24 hrs. This is just silly to me, I drove it 100 miles almost immediately.
Car Build Quality
  • Paint (MSM) is good overall.
    • There was one pretty bad road chip in front of driver's rear wheel. They touched it up on the spot and it is almost invisible now.
    • There is one very tiny scratch in the clear coat that I didn't even mention.
    • There is quite a bit of orange peel on the driver's side mirror
  • There is adhesive residue all over the place. They washed the car, it was wet, but they didn't get all the residue.
  • Panel gaps are pretty good. The hatch has a little bigger gap on the passenger side but it isn't bad. The tech that looked at it recommended I leave it alone as trying to adjust it might make it worse. I tend to agree with him.
  • No glass distortion that I could see.
  • The black trim between the doors on the passenger side was out of alignment. I pushed down on it firmly and it is much better now.
  • One of the taillights has a blemish on the inside. It is really minor.
  • Airbag worm is present.
  • Minor seat wrinkles, nothing so bad I want to risk having them work on it.
  • Light inside the console functions opposite of what makes sense. I know there are some posts in the forum about it, going to try to find them, it is pretty odd.
  • The front doors are hard to close. Tech said that is common with refresh S and will bet better over time, I guess we will see.
  • Software update was waiting for me, I started it when I got home and it failed. It is already re-downloading, hopefully it works this time.
  • No vibrations that I could feel. Will keep a look out.
Overall, I am very pleased with build quality. Given the stories in this thread I was expecting much worse. Maybe I will find more tomorrow.

My Opinions

I am coming from a 2017 MS 75.
  • This car is obviously a lot faster, which is great.
  • The interior is great, big improvement. I think white might have been more fun to get, I was just worried about jean transfer.
  • Seats are more comfortable.
  • The seatbelts feel extremely cheap. I don't know what it is but they feel very flimsy. The seatbelt button is red, I always liked that my S had black seatbelt buttons for some reason.
  • The yoke is fine. I had a couple of phantom grabs but I will get used to it easily. I like the improved visibility.
  • The turn signals are okay. I would rather have it set up like Ferrari where the left turn signal is a button on the left and the right is on the right. I am not yet used to placement so I have to look down to make sure I don't turn on the opposite signal.
  • The interface for autopilot is trash.
    • I hate that I basically lose use of the right scroll wheel. I used that for temp adjustments regularly
    • I think it is dangerous that it is the same method to turn it on and off. The stalk was a double tap backwards to engage and once forward to disengage. While driving I pressed the button intending to enable AP because I needed to look down for a second. It turns out I disengaged it without realizing it and had a lane departure incident.
  • The sound system is unimpressive. My previous S did not have the premium sound so I was expecting a big upgrade, but it doesn't seem much better. The "sound stage" seems to be well forward of the screen.
  • I am not sure about cabin noise levels. It doesn't seem crazy quiet to me but I need to try it more.

Overall the car is a big upgrade for me. I haven't done any launches or really gone crazy with speed, that will be a lot of fun. My car feels very well built.

My car's build date is 12/17. Vin is NF463.

If people are interested I will try to get some pics tomorrow to post.
 
Picked up my 2022 LR Yesterday. Looked pretty good to me. I couldn’t verify the exterior paint well due to rain but everything seems okay. I’ll inspect more this week, after tinting is complete. Interior panels line up nicely and I didn’t see any issues.

Missing trunk floor pieces but other than I think I have a complete car.

Love the car.
 

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It showed that at 80% and same at 90%. SOC did not seem to effect it.
I would consider charging the car to 100% and see if anything changes. Compare your range limit against the advertised limits and see what you end up with. I would think it might be an app glitch, but rule out any pack issues too - I would be surprised if the pack was the issue.
 
I installed the Tessie app yesterday. It shows that my "usable battery capacity is 87.1kWh". Is that correct? I thought the S was closer to 100%?
Current S shows 96.3 kWh battery capacity on Tessie. Prior S (from June-Nov) showed 96.1-96.9 on Tessie. Both refreshes.

Granted, I didn't have as much mileage on my prior S as you have now (~5K before losing it) but that seems fairly bad degradation if accurate.
 
I installed the Tessie app yesterday. It shows that my "usable battery capacity is 87.1kWh". Is that correct? I thought the S was closer to 100%?
There seems to be quite a bit of variability in battery capacity in the refresh S. When dyno mode was still available I saw 94.1kWh as my "Full Pack Energy". I've been pretty unhappy that it's not a 100kWh pack. My range is reduced by the same percentage. Tesla says it is normal.

Others like @WilliamG and I think @Muzzman1 had lower Full Pack Energy and significant other problems and their packs were replaced.

Edit: Tessie shows my battery capacity to be 90kWh :mad:

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I would consider charging the car to 100% and see if anything changes. Compare your range limit against the advertised limits and see what you end up with. I would think it might be an app glitch, but rule out any pack issues too - I would be surprised if the pack was the issue.

Out of the 20k miles, I have only charged it over 90% a few times and never to 100%. Will try that tonight.
 
There seems to be quite a bit of variability in battery capacity in the refresh S. When dyno mode was still available I saw 94.1kWh as my "Full Pack Energy". I've been pretty unhappy that it's not a 100kWh pack. My range is reduced by the same percentage. Tesla says it is normal.

Others like @WilliamG and I think @Muzzman1 had lower Full Pack Energy and significant other problems and their packs were replaced.

Edit: Tessie shows my battery capacity to be 90kWh :mad:

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Maybe you can explain to @Hayseed_MS how to get into Dyno Mode and that will prevent him from having to full-charge his vehicle. You've got a Plaid - I wonder if there's a difference (if much) on the LR?
 
Maybe you can explain to @Hayseed_MS how to get into Dyno Mode and that will prevent him from having to full-charge his vehicle. You've got a Plaid - I wonder if there's a difference (if much) on the LR?
Dyno mode is no longer available after a recent firmware update. I've got a Plaid as well and seems there's variability as @Bull mentions between cars in general.
 
Okay so I picked the car up at 3:30 and have already put > 150 miles on it. Some thoughts...

Delivery Process
  • No waiting, greeted by multiple people who were very friendly
  • Delivery person informed me right away that key fobs and parcel shelf were missing and on backorder.
    • The trunk floor was present. Parcel shelf and left side cover missing.
    • When I got home I found 2 key fobs in the glove box.
  • I showed them the delivery checklist and said I would be a while and they encouraged me to take my time and give feedback
  • After inspection they made sure the app was set up and working. A tech came to look at my issues (more later) and was mostly supportive but didn't seem hugely knowledgable.
  • They told me multiple times to make sure feedback is in first 100 miles/24 hrs. This is just silly to me, I drove it 100 miles almost immediately.
Car Build Quality
  • Paint (MSM) is good overall.
    • There was one pretty bad road chip in front of driver's rear wheel. They touched it up on the spot and it is almost invisible now.
    • There is one very tiny scratch in the clear coat that I didn't even mention.
    • There is quite a bit of orange peel on the driver's side mirror
  • There is adhesive residue all over the place. They washed the car, it was wet, but they didn't get all the residue.
  • Panel gaps are pretty good. The hatch has a little bigger gap on the passenger side but it isn't bad. The tech that looked at it recommended I leave it alone as trying to adjust it might make it worse. I tend to agree with him.
  • No glass distortion that I could see.
  • The black trim between the doors on the passenger side was out of alignment. I pushed down on it firmly and it is much better now.
  • One of the taillights has a blemish on the inside. It is really minor.
  • Airbag worm is present.
  • Minor seat wrinkles, nothing so bad I want to risk having them work on it.
  • Light inside the console functions opposite of what makes sense. I know there are some posts in the forum about it, going to try to find them, it is pretty odd.
  • The front doors are hard to close. Tech said that is common with refresh S and will bet better over time, I guess we will see.
  • Software update was waiting for me, I started it when I got home and it failed. It is already re-downloading, hopefully it works this time.
  • No vibrations that I could feel. Will keep a look out.
Overall, I am very pleased with build quality. Given the stories in this thread I was expecting much worse. Maybe I will find more tomorrow.

My Opinions

I am coming from a 2017 MS 75.
  • This car is obviously a lot faster, which is great.
  • The interior is great, big improvement. I think white might have been more fun to get, I was just worried about jean transfer.
  • Seats are more comfortable.
  • The seatbelts feel extremely cheap. I don't know what it is but they feel very flimsy. The seatbelt button is red, I always liked that my S had black seatbelt buttons for some reason.
  • The yoke is fine. I had a couple of phantom grabs but I will get used to it easily. I like the improved visibility.
  • The turn signals are okay. I would rather have it set up like Ferrari where the left turn signal is a button on the left and the right is on the right. I am not yet used to placement so I have to look down to make sure I don't turn on the opposite signal.
  • The interface for autopilot is trash.
    • I hate that I basically lose use of the right scroll wheel. I used that for temp adjustments regularly
    • I think it is dangerous that it is the same method to turn it on and off. The stalk was a double tap backwards to engage and once forward to disengage. While driving I pressed the button intending to enable AP because I needed to look down for a second. It turns out I disengaged it without realizing it and had a lane departure incident.
  • The sound system is unimpressive. My previous S did not have the premium sound so I was expecting a big upgrade, but it doesn't seem much better. The "sound stage" seems to be well forward of the screen.
  • I am not sure about cabin noise levels. It doesn't seem crazy quiet to me but I need to try it more.

Overall the car is a big upgrade for me. I haven't done any launches or really gone crazy with speed, that will be a lot of fun. My car feels very well built.

My car's build date is 12/17. Vin is NF463.

If people are interested I will try to get some pics tomorrow to post.
Is there supposed to be a light in the bottom of the center console? My model 3 (2021 build) had it.