The release notes are saying lockout is a week after the five strikes. So it's close to FSD nanny regime, but shorter than FSD's two-week lockout. I think "blame the feds" seems accurate on this one - they have a long history of burdening the broad population to prevent a .01% occurrence. It's a difficult decision, I understand. Saying no is always easy, saying yes takes rare courage.
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No, you don't lose access "for good". You lose access for "about a week", I assume the idea being to "teach you a lesson" and encourage proper AP usage.
n2mb_racing
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Ordered December 6, 2023, my EDD changed yesterday.
Dec 6 - Dec14 (8 days)
EDD 1: Jan 2024 - Feb 2024
Dec 14 -
EDD 2: January 28 - March 10
No VIN yet, no 2024 VIN sightings. Tesla is probably holding '24 VINs as an inventory reduction strategy to empty the channel of as many '23 VINs as they can.
Thats a big jump in delivery times. The wait times at the end of this year were 3-4 weeks from order date. You’re delivery time is about 8-14 weeks. I wonder if they’re stopping production at the beginning of the year.
I ordered 11/3 and had a delivery date of today that they canceled yesterday at 5pm. Please post back here if your delivery goes through.
I have a scheduled delivery day tomorrow too and so far they have not cancelled it so we'll see
The timing was great. I got a text to provide proof of funds and then an hour later, cancelled my delivery.
n2mb_racing
Active Member
My order came off of hold this morning and no VIN assigned. I was not reassigned the same VIN from before my hold. 
Now back to waiting and hoping for a '24 VIN. 
Now back to waiting and hoping for a '24 VIN. 
The Basic AP nannies allowed a lot more freedom. For example, the gaze nanny was not required for basic AP (I know this as my cabin camera has long been covered) and the steering torque nanny could be fooled for long periods with a weight. And there was not a time-based lockout - if you did get a lockout for 3 violations somehow, putting the car in park and back in drive reset it. My read of documents is this is what the feds are going after - abuses of that system.
Continues to be an irony, of course, because the ultimate goal of self-driving is to eventually give people back some time. Erroneous! - Vince Vaughn, Wedding Crashers.
aerodyne
2 of 3 EV's - Defect Free!
I hope folks will Dave some money and not purchase EAP or FSD. Now that the Feds have their foot in the door, they have said they will monitor the situation and will take further action as appropriate. I'm sure Beta will be affected in the future.
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