My guess is that the 396 are 2023 VINs since that was the 2023 range. I noticed one in my local inventory a week or two ago that was showing 396 with no discount and it was a 2023 VIN.
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n2mb_racing
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The ones with 396 miles rated are 2023 cars. The 359 mile rated ones are 2024. EPA testing changed in 2024.
n2mb_racing
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Yeah, it is shocking that they removed the discount for 2023 vehicles, in Feb of 2024. I guess just waiting for some sucker to order that configuration and then "surprise" it's in stock now. You get a car that is immediately worth $5k less than every other new car on the lot.
Ordered my MSLR UR, Cream, 19”, Steering wheel 12/27/23 but you win for patience on a month older order.
Just got back from the dealership, they were about as useful as a poop covered lollipop. They have the inventory car in an off site parking lot and I wouldn't be able to pick it up if I wanted it today. Instead I would have to cancel my current order and order the inventory vehicle (for an extra $2500 UR) which I would be able to pick up on Tuesday or Wednesday. Delivery slots for today and Monday are no longer available.
They have not heard anything about an EPA issue hold and looked at me like a deer at headlights when I was explaining it.
I did see a new M3 in UR and it looks stunning
11/27/23 MSLR UR 19' black yoke
I have a feeling I have the oldest US order here
zoomer0056
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rockytop23
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EDD moved from Feb 16 - Feb 25 to Feb 17 - Feb 25 this morning. Does the window sticker / EPA issue definitely impact every state?
Because if they didn't pretend not to know, you wouldn't be tempted to cancel your order and pay $2500 more. Regardless, they're not going to let you pick it up in a few days.
My guess is that those that have very close EDDs the car is on site but they do need that EPA issue resolved. As soon as they get the certificate you should be able to pick up immediately versus people like me with a 5 week window I think mine is not even in route to my local dealership.
My EDD was doing that back on 2/11. For 3 successive days it would update the front date and keep the back date. Then on 2/14 it changed completely to what it is now 2/17 - 3/9. Being that today is 2/17 I expect it to change again today or tomorrow.
MSLR UR, Cream, 19”, steering wheel. Ordered 12/27/23
rockytop23
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That makes sense. Really odd that none of the stores have any idea there is a hold and only figure out the issue when they try to deliver and notice there isn’t a window sticker.
zoomer0056
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They know. But they've been told not to discuss it to avoid negative press. This is where the eagle eyes of TMC comes into play...we know what they think we don't know what they know.
They cannot see anything other than that it has not been assigned a vin yet
MSP ultra red on order here. Order placed 1/28. Original EDD was 2/16 - 3/22 and today it changed to 2/23 - 3/15. So my earliest moved back but latest moved to sooner. Is this good, bad, neutral? Seems like most of you are having the whole range pushed back so I found mine odd.
Not sure What your concern is? There is no “without FSD” issue. I have had FSD for years now and also have it on my 12/23 MSP on day 1. There is a feature limit being Summon but that’s all but useless. FSD would be available on your car to buy or rent.
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