Model S range and interior update imminent?

[AnxietyRanger]

Audi was on that Apple/iPhone slide because those companies offer Qi wireless charging.

I thought that was self-evident?

Audi offers Qi wireless charging in its cars, for some years now. Whether this is available in the U.S. market I do not know.

I mean, Qi charging phones have been on the market for something like half a decade already...

Speaking of modern technology, anyone know when Tesla is coming out with a USB-C cable for the S/X phone dock?

 

[tyson]

Model 3 Phone Charging Cable

I would imagine this will work but it would be nice to see them release it for the Same and X specifically.

 

[overlappedio]

It sounds like the BMW i5 is touting a 373 mile range.

 

[james1]

I like others in this thread are thinking that for the 80K (GBP, 107k USD) for a 75D in the UK, it doesn't really offer the bang for the buck you would expect. For 80K I can get a new C63 AMG with a much much nicer interior.

Really want to buy the Model S - but will wait for the battery (not dead set on this) and interior refresh (a must for the price).

 

[DurandalAI]

Personal anecdote, I'm getting a lot more Model S promotional materials via email from Tesla the past 3 weeks. Of course, that may be related more to my putting down a 2nd Model 3 reservation 4 weeks ago. Anyone else notice an uptick in sales emails?

 

[lux_cars]

I like others in this thread are thinking that for the 80K (GBP, 107k USD) for a 75D in the UK, it doesn't really offer the bang for the buck you would expect. For 80K I can get a new C63 AMG with a much much nicer interior.

Really want to buy the Model S - but will wait for the battery (not dead set on this) and interior refresh (a must for the price).

You can get an S-Class in UK for less than that, £72,705, or an E63AMG for £79,130.

 

[AnxietyRanger]

Model 3 Phone Charging Cable

I would imagine this will work but it would be nice to see them release it for the Same and X specifically.

Yeah, I've been wondering if that would fit or not...

By the way, oddly, Tesla has put in as their micro-USB Model 3 cable image some connector that is definitely not micro-USB.

 

[number12]

Audi has offered wireless charging for a long time. Update your info...

Sorry I meant 2015 q7 before the change. I have no experience with later years.

 

[number12]

Audi being on that slide is joke. There 2017 q7 doesn't even have a lighting cable (has old iPhone cable standard)

@lux_cars again I meant to say 2015. My apologies.

 

[SO16]

Of course they have to refresh the interior. They need to move S/X over to landscape orientation screens or risk having to develop two different UI versions. Makes no sense. Refresh is coming SOONER rather than later.

Developing apps for an iPad, often you setup the app to work in both orientations and format accordingly. Not really that difficult.

 

[TaoJones]

until charging stations become as ubiquitous as gas stations and as fast as fueling a gasser yes in the long road trip mode the gasser could be seen as better. in addition there is no EV that has the payload a F150 has.

Well, having been all over the continent in road trips up to 12,000 miles each (98%-100% SCs), I'd say the day of parity w ICE in that regard has arrived.

As a recent example, a friend and I left in our respective chariots from the eclipse up in Idaho the same evening. We arrived back in LA within 5 minutes of each other ~22 hours later. Him in an ICE, and me in a proper vehicle.

About that payload... before the advent of the microfrunk, my S85 had prezactly one half-cubic-foot more cargo space than a friend's BMW X5 SUV. Now, granted, that's not an F150, but I don't need a tarp and a baseball cap, either.

 

[futurem3owner]

Audi was on that Apple/iPhone slide because those companies offer Qi wireless charging.

I thought that was self-evident?

Audi offers Qi wireless charging in its cars, for some years now. Whether this is available in the U.S. market I do not know.

I mean, Qi charging phones have been on the market for something like half a decade already...

Speaking of modern technology, anyone know when Tesla is coming out with a USB-C cable for the S/X phone dock?

My inventory 90D Model S had the lightning cable installed by the delivery specialist before I picked it up last weekend. Wasn't expecting that so, I was pleasantly surprised. Only downside to it is that since the cable's pin barely sticks out from the center console, you can't have a case on the phone and be able to plug it in.

 

[kort677]

Well, having been all over the continent in road trips up to 12,000 miles each (98%-100% SCs), I'd say the day of parity w ICE in that regard has arrived.

As a recent example, a friend and I left in our respective chariots from the eclipse up in Idaho the same evening. We arrived back in LA within 5 minutes of each other ~22 hours later. Him in an ICE, and me in a proper vehicle.

About that payload... before the advent of the microfrunk, my S85 had prezactly one half-cubic-foot more cargo space than a friend's BMW X5 SUV. Now, granted, that's not an F150, but I don't need a tarp and a baseball cap, either.

that's all well and good with the caveat that you stick close to the SpC routes, venturing away from those routes is still problematic.

 

[kutkuzak]

My inventory 90D Model S had the lightning cable installed by the delivery specialist before I picked it up last weekend. Wasn't expecting that so, I was pleasantly surprised. Only downside to it is that since the cable's pin barely sticks out from the center console, you can't have a case on the phone and be able to plug it in.

Here are some lightning connector extenders I added to mine and they work pretty well.
They're slightly fragile though (be careful pulling phone off - don't rip it off at an angle) but do the job.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0721MX2CP

 

[TaoJones]

that's all well and good with the caveat that you stick close to the SpC routes, venturing away from those routes is still problematic.

These places are accessible now by SC:

Bar Harbor, Maine
Key West, Florida
Custer, South Dakota
Island Lake, Alberta - about 100 miles northeast of Edmonton
End to end, British Columbia
Most of the Midworst
Anywhere in Vermont
All of coastal Oregon

Toss a Chademo adaptor in the frunk and things get even more accessible.

The only remaining truly vexing annoyance is the incomplete I-10 transcontinental corridor that's 3 years late. Even Seattle-Portland is improving although the dearth in Seattle is probably quite annoying to locals.

Now, granted, if one wants to get into the hinterlands where the population approaches zero, it can be old school - 4 hours of driving and 20 hours of charging (see the Alaska Highway) - but that list is shrinking with considerable alacrity.

Have a look at supercharge.info and then draw 125-mile circles at the outer boundaries. There's not much left, practically speaking.

I can't think of a single destination to which I'm headed in the next 6 months that doesn't have an overnight L2 or dryer outlet at the end of an SC reach. And that includes Hawaii except it'll take a big floaty thing to get my car there and back. Same with Alaska because I ain't driving the Alaska Highway until Elon's promise of it being SC-enabled comes to pass.

Are there exceptions? Maybe so. But I'd rather tow a Bolt with my Model S (there's yer extra range) than drive an ICE *twitch*.

 

[kengchang]

I wonder if they are going to announce the refresh along with the Tesla Semi, Musk did say there's going to be a surprise

 

[Hey_Hey]

I wonder if they are going to announce the refresh along with the Tesla Semi, Musk did say there's going to be a surprise

I doubt it. They just released the new rear seat design. While they could include that in the new interior refresh, I doubt they would roll it out three or four weeks before a total interior refresh.

I didn't read all the posts in this thread, so if that has recently been discussed forgive me.

 

[AnxietyRanger]

I doubt it. They just released the new rear seat design. While they could include that in the new interior refresh, I doubt they would roll it out three or four weeks before a total interior refresh.

I didn't read all the posts in this thread, so if that has recently been discussed forgive me.

Why not?

Tesla has totally rolled out partial features in ancitipation of upgrades. It may be, for example, because they run out of the old part. Some examples are AP2 rear camera appearing in AP1 cars a little before AP2, low-placed cruise control appearing in non-AP cars a little before AP1 came along etc.

Frankly, a revised rear-seat could actually increase the odds of an interior refresh up front...

In any case, Tesla upgrading the dash of Model S/X could also well be quite separate from seating anyway. Tesla changes everything, all the time, many times each quarter, sometimes forwards, sometimes backwards, nothing is sacred. I mean, they introduced ventilated-seats to Model S in late 2016, only to cancel ventilated seats in early 2017 entirely...

 

[kort677]

These places are accessible now by SC:

Bar Harbor, Maine
Key West, Florida
Custer, South Dakota
Island Lake, Alberta - about 100 miles northeast of Edmonton
End to end, British Columbia
Most of the Midworst
Anywhere in Vermont
All of coastal Oregon

Toss a Chademo adaptor in the frunk and things get even more accessible.

The only remaining truly vexing annoyance is the incomplete I-10 transcontinental corridor that's 3 years late. Even Seattle-Portland is improving although the dearth in Seattle is probably quite annoying to locals.

Now, granted, if one wants to get into the hinterlands where the population approaches zero, it can be old school - 4 hours of driving and 20 hours of charging (see the Alaska Highway) - but that list is shrinking with considerable alacrity.

Have a look at supercharge.info and then draw 125-mile circles at the outer boundaries. There's not much left, practically speaking.

I can't think of a single destination to which I'm headed in the next 6 months that doesn't have an overnight L2 or dryer outlet at the end of an SC reach. And that includes Hawaii except it'll take a big floaty thing to get my car there and back. Same with Alaska because I ain't driving the Alaska Highway until Elon's promise of it being SC-enabled comes to pass.

Are there exceptions? Maybe so. But I'd rather tow a Bolt with my Model S (there's yer extra range) than drive an ICE *twitch*.

I can offer many many more places that are problematic getting to, how about if you're on a road trip and want to deviate a bit off the route? L2 destination chargers are nice if you want to spend the night someplace but the inherent slowness of the charge limits your ability to make an afternoon 50 mile side trip while taking a road trip. I'll stand by my comment that until SpCs become as ubiquitous as fuel stations the use of the car is somewhat limited by range considerations.

 

[SO16]

that's all well and good with the caveat that you stick close to the SpC routes, venturing away from those routes is still problematic.

Yup. Not parity. But there has been great progress made and will continue with the SC.