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Discussion in 'Model S' started by Thorbjorn, Jul 29, 2017.
911R nice catch
I guess Elon's assertion yesterday that Model S orders have been increasing prior to, and after, the Model 3 Delivery Event has pretty much put a bullet through the head of the argument that Tesla will have to improve the Model S to avoid Model 3 from cannibalizing Model S sales. Perhaps a Model S range and interior update is not so imminent, after all.
With Elon, the devil is in the details. He said that model X and S orders have increased. As of last quarter, model X order has surpassed the S. The scenario when model X order increases but model S doesn't still hold true of what he said. In addition, 85kwh has been software capped to be 75kwh in Europe (not yet in US), so potentially that could be the next upgrade we might get later this year. During yesterday quarter meeting, he also noted that what ever cost reduction in model S and X will go back to customers as well which probably has been seen on April (Model S price was lower) and the performance boost on July.
Elon said that they are working on S and X to keep up with the tech of the Model 3. And he also said that due to improvements there are additional savings in the S and X production and they will pass it on to customers.
Yes, the P85+ had an excellent, sports suspension that justified the higher price. Back then a P85+ was around $30,000 more than a standard, non-performance model. Today the price difference is higher, but with a normal suspension.
I hope that's true. If they can narrow the gap in price, I think that's a good thing.
I believe P85Ds produced prior to a certain date (April 2015?) had the P85+ bits. Some even had staggered wheels, if I remember correctly.
We're talking about Elon here. He'll find a way to qualify the word "increasing". If Tesla sold just one Model S per week after the Model S delivery event, its Model S sales would still be technically increasing.
Possible in store S/X/3 comparison • r/teslamotors
Ha. And, they "may" be hosting an event where you can compare all three...
No point in having the event if they don't get a threshold of RSVPs.
Looks like the S-Class facelift got the spaceship like interior
lots of buttons!
From the discoteque of a spaceship in a 1970's sci-fi tv show.
Man I'm itching to pull the trigger on an S 100D, but I just cant. It's just not good value for the money...they really need to spice things up soon.
I agree, my OA needs to get back with me on the deal they are offering on the 90D I drove. If it's bit great I may wait.
I feel exactly as you do—I really want an S 100D. Yet, I just cannot bring myself to pay $23k more for an increase of just 25 kWh of battery when the same increase used to cost only $10k (S60 -> S85), and now only costs $9k for the same increase in the Model 3. Yet, I really want >300 miles of range. This paralyzes me from committing, and I sit waiting, hoping, that Tesla will rectify this ridiculous discrepancy.
Bottom line. Anyone who buys a tesla now, that can wait, is not being smart.
2 times to wait for.
Non employees owning 3s
After OCT 15 (see AP 1 and AP2 release dates). That's 15 days after end of quarter and gives factory their one week shut down time.
Tesla's engraining in customers minds to wait. So wait.
Battery changes (85, etc)
I've sat in a model 3 for a good bit of time and have owned a model s and now a model x. After sitting in the Model 3 I couldn't be happier to get back into my x. I think the s and x just feel much better than the 3 does interior and exterior wise.
I agree on interior refresh and battery change but isn't the AP2.5 more like 2.1 and, even so, isn't it already shipping in new cars now?
I don't take Tesla's word for much.
Also if it was 2.5... would they talk about it much until even one person has it in an X or S?
And there is no confirmation that S/X have the Model 3 interior camera yet with HW 2.5...