I ordered my S less than a month after the refresh was announced and got the car in about 6 weeks. Deliveries to the west coast go pretty quick.
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Model S range and interior update imminent?
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I ordered my S less than a month after the refresh was announced and got the car in about 6 weeks. Deliveries to the west coast go pretty quick.
So, after listening to Elon Musk latest podcast with Ryan McCaffrey, around 19mins in, the subject of a Heads up Display came up. Elon Musk made it very clear that he finds a HUD “annoying and completely pointless” especially when FSD arrives he said you don’t need to see information on the windshield at that point..
So, I believe this totally answers the question if a HUD will come soon or ever in the Model S. The short answer. No. Elon Musk finds it dumb lol
So, I believe this totally answers the question if a HUD will come soon or ever in the Model S. The short answer. No. Elon Musk finds it dumb lol
There may be something small. Check out : Exclusive first look at Tesla Model S and Model X interior refresh: going spartan like Model 3 - Electrek
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My $0.02 is that Elon is making a HUGE mistake if the refreshed Model S/X interior looks like a Model 3 interior. Having the IC (binnacle) in front of the driver is much better than having to take your eyes off of the road to look at a center screen.
All other premium brands (Mercedes, Porsche, Audi, and BMW) will have killer EV interiors. There is no way I would trade in my 2016 Model S and spend twice as much money as a Model 3 to get a Model 3 interior.
Exactly. Model 3 features and pricing already narrows the market of people that can justifying paying a 2X premium. But pay $40K-$50K more to get substantially the same interior ?
Tesla has also provided no promotional, advertising or marketing support to maintain a premium, flagship image and features for the S and significantly distinguish it from the 3. Why not?
Further, without any exterior styling changes, I don't see reviving S sales to former levels. I am sure Tesla will change wheels and lights to freshen things up, but sheet metal changes are probably needed too.
Elon is a minimalist. I've seen pictures of him in his office, he has a large empty, modernistic desk, a computer, and pretty much nothing else. I think he has ADD and many people with ADD who are successful learn to minimize their environment so they can concentrate. He brings that over into his cars and while some people like it, most hate it. The Model S initially didn't have a center console, but they eventually relented and included it.
Going minimalist on the Model S/X without a very big price drop is going to kill demand entirely. Even with a big price drop demand will be likely be weak.
Too many rumors and speculation. All I know is that the Tesla Models S & X have dated interiors and not worth the price tage of circa $130K. Damn, just too expensive.
Fortunately you can get a nicely equipped S or X for a lot less than that, especially if you consider new inventory models.
Nothing wrong with the interior, nothing dated about it. You want to end up something ugly inside and out just because they want to differentiate from others and themselves every 3 years, buy a Subaru. You can't keep changing something to look different and have it be better every time. Porsche has effectively been making the same car half a century, works for them.
True- but they have a LONG way to go to catch up with Porsche when it comes to build quality, reliability, customer service, etc.
They could sell twice as many cars if they changed nothing about the car but this. You have long term owners (like myself) who are filled with dread or regret over buying a new one, or just not bothering to.
I think Tesla may be just biding their time as they engineer in new Maxwell battery & super capacitor tech. Keep it mostly the same, put in tech improvements, then wow us next year with a redesigned exterior (more 2020 roadster looking), replace the battery pack with a 120kw Maxwell dry anode pack, add a 15kw super capacitor booster pack for that 15 seconds of instant 75 miles of driving distance, and finally AP4 computer. At that time I think they would easily justify the $145k price tag again.
But until then, just keep trickling in small improvements, keep dropping the price every 3 months or so by $1k or $2k. Seems a good strategy to do so. Essentially I agree with the above sentiments.
But until then, just keep trickling in small improvements, keep dropping the price every 3 months or so by $1k or $2k. Seems a good strategy to do so. Essentially I agree with the above sentiments.
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You obviously never experienced the Thermal Reactor, Carrera 4S, Intermediate Bearing , etc adventures. If you had, you too would have completed your work with the products of Zuffenhausen.
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Regen tops out at what 60kW? Supercharging is allowed up to 250kW at low SoC...
Is the Raven suspension really electric? Tesla calls it an adaptive air suspension. (I don't think it is a magnetic suspension system.)
I think the largest capacitor they have holds 0.00303750 kWh. So it would take ~6 of those to absorb a single second of 60kW regen. Which would add ~3kg of weight to the car. So no, if you have the space and weight allowance to add supercapacitors to your car you could get better performance, and value, by just adding more 18660, or 2170, cells.
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