My analogy was regarding the role of the upgrade: it's still "the computer for the apps" for the TV, which is what the MCU is for the Tesla - I didn't mean to analogize the fact the MCU is indeed an internal, difficult-to-replace component while the Samsung Evolution Kit is an external component - that's how they're different, but my point is that the MCU in a Tesla *should* be like the Evolution Kit in a Samsung TV: user-replacable.
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Model S/X deliveries with Intel-based MCU
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My analogy was regarding the role of the upgrade: it's still "the computer for the apps" for the TV, which is what the MCU is for the Tesla - I didn't mean to analogize the fact the MCU is indeed an internal, difficult-to-replace component while the Samsung Evolution Kit is an external component - that's how they're different, but my point is that the MCU in a Tesla *should* be like the Evolution Kit in a Samsung TV: user-replacable.
mtndrew1
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mkspeedr
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I don't understand. Tesla has been selling cars for 6 years. They are constantly upgrading. When you buy the car be happy with what you are buying. If you are not happy...wait until the features you want are available.
If you use that reasoning - Tesla should be able to change the price before they deliver based on supply chain, currency exchanges, fuel prices, cost of toilet paper...etc...
Roderick80
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VIN: 245,017
Ordered: 1/27
In Production: 2/16 - 2/23
Haven't taken delivery yet due to Tesla fixing a scratch. I have the lighted vanity. Anyone want to guess the over/under that I have the new MCU? I'm guessing I missed it by a hair.
Ordered: 1/27
In Production: 2/16 - 2/23
Haven't taken delivery yet due to Tesla fixing a scratch. I have the lighted vanity. Anyone want to guess the over/under that I have the new MCU? I'm guessing I missed it by a hair.
GatorGuy
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I did not get the new MCU which I kind of figured since my car finished production 2/20, but I did get one heck of a fast car.
I'll just have to do some extra launches to make up for my disappointment
I'll just have to do some extra launches to make up for my disappointment
I agree.
They're free to change the price at any time right now too - and pricing is partly based on their own supply-chain.
I wasn't advocating or suggesting that Telsa should be able to change the price after you've signed the order agreement. What I am advocating for is some kind of advance-notice to prevent buyer's remorse and to keep customers happy.
Right now, the process is this:
1. Customer submits Custom Order online, pays the $2500 custom order deposit.
2. Customer waits 1-3 months for the order to be produced.
3. During this waiting period, news breaks of a significant update.4
4. While the customer is waiting, if their car had already entered production such that they miss the new update then they technically have the option of canceling their custom order and forfeiting their $2500 deposit and then make a new custom order (for another $2500 - so that's $5000 spent) with another 1-3 month wait with the update. I accept it's likely that a sympathetic SA/DS might be able to pull some strings to perhaps waive at least one of those $2500 payments, and it's true that we all contractually agreed to forfeit the $2500 if we ever change our minds - I accept that.
Instead, I'm proposing that after step 1: after the customer has paid the deposit, if there is a significant update planned then Tesla might advise the customer of something in-the-works and asking if they're okay with waiting an extra couple of weeks to ensure that their order gets the update - saving the customer the hassle (and another 1-3 month wait), but boosting their happiness with the company - while costing the company the extra custom-order revenue they would have otherwise received.
gork
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I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little bit jaded having taken delivery of my car just over 2 months ago, but on the other hand I'm glad they finally came through.
Although I am only a recent owner I have followed the MS closely since release, and on the whole the MCU has always felt like it could have been paid a lot more attention over the years. Tesla's "continuous improvement" would be a lot better if very important and rapidly improving things like the MCU and its software actually improved instead of going stagnant for 7 years. Yes there have been minor improvements and a couple of re-skins but that's really about it. Given the unlimited potential of a 17" touchscreen computer in the dash remarkably little has been added or improved since the MS was new. Had Tesla been incrementally improving the MCU over time (both hardware performance and software performance and features) like they have the batteries, drive units, autopilot, and interior I do not think they would be facing this sort of negative response.
Tesla is going to have some very hard choices now: given that they now have a more powerful platform they do not have any real large incentive to pour lots of work into the old system which is unfortunate since I think the Tegra3 hardware should be capabile of delivering a much snappier UI and better experience than it currently does. The bigger problem though is that lack of incremental improvements mean that there is no more long tail where new features can be introduced and still easily work on older hardware if only a little slower; instead it is more likely that there will be a hard cutoff. The first major "software only" feature to drop support for the older hardware is gonna be a shitshow for Tesla unless they have some sort of upgrade path or unless they delay any such improvement for a long time. Given how behind they are in the vehicle infotainment area now I would think that offering an affordable upgrade path to give an option for all of their cars to get on board the new hotness would be a pretty nifty move. I hope it happens!
Although I am only a recent owner I have followed the MS closely since release, and on the whole the MCU has always felt like it could have been paid a lot more attention over the years. Tesla's "continuous improvement" would be a lot better if very important and rapidly improving things like the MCU and its software actually improved instead of going stagnant for 7 years. Yes there have been minor improvements and a couple of re-skins but that's really about it. Given the unlimited potential of a 17" touchscreen computer in the dash remarkably little has been added or improved since the MS was new. Had Tesla been incrementally improving the MCU over time (both hardware performance and software performance and features) like they have the batteries, drive units, autopilot, and interior I do not think they would be facing this sort of negative response.
Tesla is going to have some very hard choices now: given that they now have a more powerful platform they do not have any real large incentive to pour lots of work into the old system which is unfortunate since I think the Tegra3 hardware should be capabile of delivering a much snappier UI and better experience than it currently does. The bigger problem though is that lack of incremental improvements mean that there is no more long tail where new features can be introduced and still easily work on older hardware if only a little slower; instead it is more likely that there will be a hard cutoff. The first major "software only" feature to drop support for the older hardware is gonna be a shitshow for Tesla unless they have some sort of upgrade path or unless they delay any such improvement for a long time. Given how behind they are in the vehicle infotainment area now I would think that offering an affordable upgrade path to give an option for all of their cars to get on board the new hotness would be a pretty nifty move. I hope it happens!
I think my car completed on 2/22, I’m hoping my happy rear-end off right now.I did not get the new MCU which I kind of figured since my car finished production 2/20, but I did get one heck of a fast car.
I'll just have to do some extra launches to make up for my disappointment
It's not black and white. If I'm willing to pay $100K for a car, it doesn't mean I wouldn't be happier paying $90K for it. The same goes for features. I'd buy a RWD Tesla; I'd prefer AWD. I'll take a slow as hell MCU, but I'd prefer a faster one. If the human race didn't seek to optimize, we'd still be living in shacks without running water. Or sleeping outdoors in bearskins.
So, you can allow yourself to feel sad that you would have been better off had you waited a few days/weeks. And you can allow yourself to wish that Tesla's upgrades were more predictable, as they are for other manufacturers. The current situation is a lottery that confers prizes to random buyers.
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Trebek1762
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Roderick80
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Sorry, should have included: 75D, PUP, EAP, black and beautiful.
Hated like hell I couldn't drive off w her. Agree w @GatorGuy on the remedy if I missed this.
Yelp. His said it went into production ~23rd of February.
I did just call service and they said they haven't heard if I can upgrade mine yet. I will check in with them next week. Hopefully a retrofit will be available.
Thanks Erik
lunitiks
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Trebek1762
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I ordered the day before you (1/26), confirmed on 1/30, but didn't enter production until Feb 28th, and exited production on March 3rd.
you might be at the end of the old MCU line with those production dates.
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