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Model X 60D is Gone

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The 60D is 10% cheaper ($9000), but you get only 12% less in-town range since you can safely charge to 100% all the time.

I wish people would stop saying that since, at this time, we have no concrete evidence that it is true. For the Model S we have some evidence that 100% is actually 100%, so you can't safely charge to 100% every day.

Hopefully @Ingineer will get a refresh 60 hooked up so he can let us know for sure how Tesla is limiting the packs.
 
I wish people would stop saying that since, at this time, we have no concrete evidence that it is true. For the Model S we have some evidence that 100% is actually 100%, so you can't safely charge to 100% every day.

Hopefully @Ingineer will get a refresh 60 hooked up so he can let us know for sure how Tesla is limiting the packs.
This is first time I read 100% is 100% on the software limited 60. Can you share the thread? I have only read people charging to 100% without the taper.
 
This is first time I read 100% is 100% on the software limited 60. Can you share the thread? I have only read people charging to 100% without the taper.

Here is a post from the Model S thread:

The 75 behaves exactly like the older 70's voltage-curve wise, with the exception that the new 75 charges with higher current and way less taper. I think this may be due to 3 things; improvements to electrochemistry, thermal management, and the doubling up on the bond wires that connect each cell to the bus plates.

Until I get real data myself from a new locked 60 pack, I can't state for sure, but evidence presented from several members here indicates that the pack voltage is at 352 volts when completing a 100% supercharge. This means 4.2v/cell, which is 100% charge. Going over that is instant damage to the cell. There has been a theory proffered by some here that Tesla/Panasonic changed the electrochemistry such that is supports a higher 100% charge voltage, which is highly unlikely due to the way voltage is established in the cell. Also, if this were the case, then I'd see it on the 75 pack. Nope!
 
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I do not see any evidence or conclusion on the 60. It's ending inconclusive as far as I see up to the last post.

People have shown the voltage of their pack at 100%. And I quoted, and bolded, the important part from @Ingineer above. But again, we don't know for sure at this point, but so far it looks like 100%=100%.

For all we know Tesla flip-flops it. Today your battery might charge 0-80%, but they could flip it at your next charge to be 20%-100%, and then the day after that it could be 10%-90%. They could even be sampling different cars with different ranges to see how it impacts capacity loss over time. It doesn't have to be just one range for everyone that stays the same forever.
 
Just noticed this myself. Gotta be a website update in progress. No reason to dump to 60D. That being said...we have one ordered with it being delivered in March (by our choice). There's no way we will upgrade to a 75D.

Just FYI I had one ordered in July and asked for November delivery. Earlier this week it disappeared from MyTesla, and when I called my local specialist they said apparently corporate cancelled my order. I got no notification or refund of my deposit and they made me place a new order... still working on getting my deposit back (they say I'll be refunded). We don't plan to upgrade to 75d either.
 
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There are currently 3 different physical battery packs. 75, 90, 100. The 90 will likely go away when the 100's tech is applied to smaller sizes. The question is, what will the new sizes be in December when 100 is available on non P models?
 
There are currently 3 different physical battery packs. 75, 90, 100. The 90 will likely go away when the 100's tech is applied to smaller sizes. The question is, what will the new sizes be in December when 100 is available on non P models?

December all 100s is unlikely. No indication of that timing yet.

Likely mid-late 2017 I'd say once they are able to mass produce these along with M3 needs.
 
It seemed like they were trying to decrease the prices across the S and X in recent months to reach more buyers with introduction of the 60 but now they flipped and seem to be reversing course. I understand Q3 is done but they still need to move significant #s to meet Q4 projections, this really doesn't seem like a way to do it. Is this possibly a long term plan to increase S and X prices to differentiate them at least by price point from the 3?
 
Tesla discontinues the Model X 60D with software-limited 75 kWh battery pack

The Tesla Model X 60D has been a short-lived trim of Tesla’s all-electric SUV. After being introduced in July following the Model S 60, Tesla introduced the same software-limited concept for the Model X with a 75 kWh battery pack capped at 60 kWh. This week, the automaker removed the option from the design studio and in the process, it significantly increased the base price of the vehicle to $85,000.

Tesla pushed several updates to its design studio this week, including removing two colors and making the Smart Air Suspension standard on all versions of the Model X. But the removal of the 60D trim is by far the biggest update to be pushed to the studio since it significantly increases the price of the Model X by $11,000.