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Model X Road Trips
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rhumbliner
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@Saxena is right, definitely watch for Destination Chargers. We are on week 13 (just over 11,000 miles) of our MS90D shakedown drive of the lower 48 -- much of it off the supercharger network. We've made extensive use of DC's cuz they allow us to recharge while we sleep.
I would also recommend that those planning a long trip, contact Tesla and get a packet of DC brochures to hand out to B&B's and motels that do not have a DC. It helps to spread the word and I've been surprised by the number of proprietors who've never even heard of Tesla.
I would also recommend that those planning a long trip, contact Tesla and get a packet of DC brochures to hand out to B&B's and motels that do not have a DC. It helps to spread the word and I've been surprised by the number of proprietors who've never even heard of Tesla.
goneskiian
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Not for long!
Supercharger - Jackson WY
Well, OK, still need one somewhere along I-80 in southern WY (Evanston or Rock Springs) to make that more comfortably. The Idaho Falls or Pocatello route from the SW wouldn't be too bad though.
Would you mind sharing some more details on the configuration you're using for the roof box (what model is the narrower box that allows one door to still open, what dimensions/orientation/how many kayak mounts do you use to mount the box)? One of my biggest regrets about the X was the loss of our roof box/roof ski mount capacity, but you've just completely solved that problem! Thank you!
Planning a road trip from Folsom to Las Vegas starting tomorrow. EVTripPlanner is giving me route via the Sierras - 50 up to Meyers and then 89 etc via Gardnerville, Hawthorne etc. With the storm passing over the Sierras this weekend wondering if I should still take that route or do the more flat route via Barstow. What do my fellow road trippers say?
aesculus
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Keep in mind that EVTripPlanner does not really know weather. It uses a fixed temp and wind. With variable weather conditions plus the effects of precipitation I suspect it's modeling will be off. I would be wary of that route during a storm compared to I5/I15. And you are only talking a 9 minute difference in trip time according to Google. You will eat that up quickly if you have to slow on US 50 for chain controls.
Thanks @ohmman for alerting us to status of Barstow. Apparently it was vandalized.
@aesculus - how are you getting 9mins difference in time between the two routes. I am getting an hour difference at the least and that is assuming Barstow was open.
Checked the trip planner in the car and it wants to take the Sierra route. I wonder how autonomous car would make it through without recharging at some point before Gardnerville.
aesculus
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I just took a gander at Google, not considering EV.
But with a Tesla, since you need superchargers, the spacing makes all of the difference. Without Barstow in a Model X you are basically screwed. You have to charge so long at your prior stop that you eat up all the time filling up the car at the top. Also getting to Mohave is tough for you via 99 because Tesla put the Bakersfield supercharger on I5 instead of HWY 99. What is that about? It totally screws up using HWY 99 going over to I15.
So in your case going over the Sierras (snow permitting) is probably the best route because the supercharger spacing is much better than going down the Central Valley and you can avoid the issue at Barstow.
I ran some calculations using wind, temp and rain to see what the impacts were.
Here is one trip via 99/I5. It's 11:55 because of really long charging times. You could actually save 30 minutes by stopping at Bakersfield and Barstow SCs too if available, just because you would be charging only at the lower end then.
- 8:52 AM Folsom, Folsom, CA, United States - Depart with the car charged to 90%.
- 10:14 AM Manteca Supercharger, 960 Perimeter Dr,Manteca, CA - Charge for 31 minutes to 83%.
- 12:39 PM Harris Ranch Supercharger, 24505 W Dorris Ave,Coalinga, CA - Charge for 61 minutes to 93%.
- 4:08 PM Mojave Supercharger, 16940 California 14,Mojave, CA - Charge for 65 minutes to 96%.
- 7:58 PM Primm Supercharger, 31900 Las Vegas Blvd S,Primm, NV - Charge for 5 minutes to 34%.
- 8:47 PM Las Vegas, Las Vegas, NV, United States - SOC at arrival will be 15%.
If you go via Tonopah its 10:18 because you can charge for shorter times. Hope the weather over the Sierras works for you.
- 9:18 AM Folsom, Folsom, CA, United States - Depart with the car charged to 90%.
- 11:46 AM Gardnerville Supercharger, 1979 US 395,Gardnerville, NV - Charge for 14 minutes to 50%.
- 1:39 PM Hawthorne Supercharger, 705 Hwy 362 Hawthorne,Hawthorne, NV - Charge for 29 minutes to 67%.
- 3:42 PM Tonopah Supercharger, 171 Main St.,Tonopah, NV - Charge for 16 minutes to 52%.
- 5:22 PM Beatty, NV Supercharger, 900 Hwy 95 N,Beatty, NV - Charge for 27 minutes to 65%.
- 7:36 PM Las Vegas, Las Vegas, NV, United States - SOC at arrival will be 15%.
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Phil Seastrand
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JimVandegriff
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Took a small road trip from Fremont,CA to Reno, NV yesterday. 100% charge at Fremont starting point. 13% remaining at my destination hotel. Lowest temperature was 29F. My average speed was around 70mph. I was planning to use tesla destination charger at the hotel but the hotel valet refused to plug the car in. They said the chargers are for casino VIPs only, for high spenders only. I had to go use ChargePoint charger at a nearby general parking. So much for Tesla destination charging. 
aesculus
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You should tell us which hotel this was so we can all avoid them or challenge accordingly.
You should also send an email to the Tesla department that handles destination charging letting them know of your experience.
I completely agree. While I know the rules of destination charging are truly up to the charging host (I've had to pay $25 to charge at a hotel where I was guest before), that sounds more like it's off-limits to many. Tesla should remove it from nav/the website if there are restrictions to the general public.
WATTS-UP
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Gee, maybe we should just start a list here of all the Hotels, Motel and B&B's that screw us over. I'm sure Tesla will get the hint.
umeshunni
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There's a supercharger in Reno, right?Took a small road trip from Fremont,CA to Reno, NV yesterday. 100% charge at Fremont starting point. 13% remaining at my destination hotel. Lowest temperature was 29F. My average speed was around 70mph. I was planning to use tesla destination charger at the hotel but the hotel valet refused to plug the car in. They said the chargers are for casino VIPs only, for high spenders only. I had to go use ChargePoint charger at a nearby general parking. So much for Tesla destination charging.
The hotel name is Silver Legacy. I left a complain with the hotel and will email Tesla about it as well.
There is a supercharger here in Reno, so there is plenty of options to charge, however I rather leave superchargers unocupied for the ones who needs it to charge quickly and move on with their trip. If I am staying somewhere overnight I prefer destination chargers.
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Thanks for the great find!
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