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I'm not following the numbers. How did you show 271 miles on 80% charge for a MYP? 80% of 303 miles is 242 miles.I have been charging my MYP with the superchargers for ~ 2x a week up to the daily max mark only. When I took delivery almost 4 months ago, 80% charge gave me 271 miles, quickly it became 270 miles and in last couple months, that charged up to 269 miles, and recently became 268 miles for 1800 miles only on the car. Now, I am charging for the first time to 100%, and it maxed that charge at 298 miles instead of the 303 miles listed.
That sounds right. Assume about 1 mile per day phantom loss (More if you use any app that wakes a sleeping Tesla). I assume I will get about 80% of the range shown by the car (Which is based on the EPA estimate, not your driving style), so you are doing a little better than that.I have a LR Y and the best I’ve been able to get on a 90% charge has been 240 miles (down to 3%). My daily commute is 30 miles and I charge once a week so I might be losing some % when the car’s not being driven (I’ve seen people say that you can lose 1% per day when you leave the Y sitting in a parking garage for several days).
No, that is not true. This thread is talking about the little "fuel gauge" and the number in that. I think every other brand of electric car EXCEPT Tesla does what you are describing, where that number is constantly shuffling around based on the driver's habits. (Usually called a Guess-O-Meter) Tesla does NOT do it that way.From what I understand, your estimated range varies based on your current average wh/mi. So as your driving habits change, your estimated range will change.
That is to say, your estimated range depends on the amount of energy (kwh) stored in your battery pack, and also on your own personal average wh/mi
Thanks for the clarification! I was thinking it worked the same way as the energy app.No, that is not true. This thread is talking about the little "fuel gauge" and the number in that. I think every other brand of electric car EXCEPT Tesla does what you are describing, where that number is constantly shuffling around based on the driver's habits. (Usually called a Guess-O-Meter) Tesla does NOT do it that way.
That display in the Tesla is not a range estimator based on your driving style. It is just the car's attempted measurement of the amount of energy but then converted by a FIXED efficiency constant from the EPA testing. That is why it is called "rated" miles. The cars do have an Energy app that you can display on the screen, where it can show you a projection of real range remaining, based on your previous 5, 15, or 30 miles if you want a more realistic estimate, but that's separate from the fuel gauge.
I think that rather than focusing on that number next to the battery, Tesla should just get rid of it and stick with the %, while expending the capabilities of the Energy App (by adding range based on last 50 & 100 miles), and make the Energy App accessible with one tap on the Home screen. That would make things easier and take out a lot of confusion among new owner.
Absolutely not, that just makes knowing one's range more difficult. Just knowing the battery percentage involves a calculation of how many miles can I drive with that much power. It would be like telling me how many gallons of gas in an ICE vehicle. The EPA range available, calculated from the available battery power, is what I need and what I get at present. I know how the current conditions (temperature, wind, elevation) and my driving style (speed, acceleration mode etc.) will affect the actual consumption and can plan accordingly.I think that rather than focusing on that number next to the battery, Tesla should just get rid of it and stick with the %, while expending the capabilities of the Energy App (by adding range based on last 50 & 100 miles), and make the Energy App accessible with one tap on the Home screen. That would make things easier and take out a lot of confusion among new owner.
Agree completely. % is nothing more than sticking your head in the sand. I know that the rated miles number is optimistically high by some ballpark fudge factor, but it does at least convey some real information you can relate to. % means all kinds of different things on different sized batteries and different models of vehicles.Absolutely not, that just makes knowing one's range more difficult. Just knowing the battery percentage involves a calculation of how many miles can I drive with that much power. It would be like telling me how many gallons of gas in an ICE vehicle. The EPA range available, calculated from the available battery power, is what I need and what I get at present. I know how the current conditions (temperature, wind, elevation) and my driving style (speed, acceleration mode etc.) will affect the actual consumption and can plan accordingly.
If you read my post in its entirety, you'll see that I say that they should show the energy app readily accessible, for actual realistic range. What is the point of doing the math in your head (let's say you know that 1 mile of EPA rating will actually get you 0.7 mile in real life), when you could have the Energy app doing that, based on your last 100 miles driven, for example? Your last 100 miles driven are a much better indication of your driving style, and the actual range that you will get with said driving style, temperatures etc...Absolutely not, that just makes knowing one's range more difficult. Just knowing the battery percentage involves a calculation of how many miles can I drive with that much power. It would be like telling me how many gallons of gas in an ICE vehicle. The EPA range available, calculated from the available battery power, is what I need and what I get at present. I know how the current conditions (temperature, wind, elevation) and my driving style (speed, acceleration mode etc.) will affect the actual consumption and can plan accordingly.
I would rather rely upon a reliable base number to estimate my next 100 miles of driving than the actual results of the last 100 miles, the past is not necessarily a good basis to estimate the future.If you read my post in its entirety, you'll see that I say that they should show the energy app readily accessible, for actual realistic range. What is the point of doing the math in your head (let's say you know that 1 mile of EPA rating will actually get you 0.7 mile in real life), when you could have the Energy app doing that, based on your last 100 miles driven, for example? Your last 100 miles driven are a much better indication of your driving style, and the actual range that you will get with said driving style, temperatures etc...
And actually, the gas gauge in an ICE car is exactly what you mention, just a rough estimate of how many gallons are in the tank. It's never bothered anyone for the past few decades, last I checked?
Sorry but your "point" makes no sense to me (Nor mine to you, obviously)And that number that ICE cars show is based on the last 30-50 miles driven. You keep making my point lol.
If I never drive more efficiently than 260kw/mi, why would I care what the EPA rated range with 240kw/mi is? It doesn't make much sense. But I guess the different preferences are why Tesla has both options and it will probably stay that way, confusing new owners who don't understand that they are only getting 220 miles flying down the freeway when the number next to the battery said 326 miles...
Not sure it this will make you feel better or worse, but my MY LR AWD shows a 100% charge of 289 miles. It has slowly gone down from 316 when new to 289 now 5000 miles later. It is normal according to Tesla service.