EDDs for new orders surely will get worse... but yeah it doesn’t seem like it would affect current orders... except he’s on hold, right?
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Don't think hold puts you to the end of the line, since they use OD or PC date or the Magic Eight ball (which likely won't say 'Last"). I've seen some suggest the best is to stay the course until a VIN is assigned, then Hold thinking you are back to on the verge of getting a VIN when you release (eliminates the Magic 8 Ball variable?).
At any rate, one thing is certain: Who the eff knows.
Destiny1701
22’ M3LR ‘DrkNite’/ 22’ MYP BliueRocket
I released the hold. Says ‘TBD’ which will probably update tomorrow as it’s weekend. Let’s see…two scenarios:
1. Vin gets assigned prior to 4680 and I bite the bullet and accept a 2170
or,2. Vin gets assigned after we hear of 4680 officially and I either have to hold a slight bit longer or accept the 2170 if it’s now looking like Q3/Q4 for 4680. Cant wait that long.
All depends on timing of next vin match.
SilverSp33d3r
No Longer Silver
Battery day claims 14% range increase. 244 x 1.14 = 278.16
Just saying it’s close for a reason and it allows them to make higher margin with less cells.
Aka Tesla opens up SR AWD for the old LR AWD price
or this new standard AWD model gets all the 4680s and the current models continue on for an unspecified-by-tesla long time with 2170 until 4680 battery production ramp gets where it needs to be.I released the hold. Says ‘TBD’ which will probably update tomorrow as it’s weekend. Let’s see…two scenarios:
1. Vin gets assigned prior to 4680 and I bite the bullet and accept a 2170
2. Vin gets assigned after we hear of 4680 officially and I either have to hold a slight bit longer or accept the 2170 if it’s now looking like Q3/Q4 for 4680. Cant wait that long.
All depends on timing of next vin match.
I dont think so, but there is plausible scenario laid out for that as a possibility on twitter right now.
I saw $5.20 gas last night, I’m going to take what I can get as quickly as I can get it.
They parked a ton more in Berlin waiting for government permission to begin making cars for sale. I wouldn’t read anything at all into those cars sitting outside Austin factory.
BGOwner
Active Member
Supposedly waiting on EPA certification, if that one listed yesterday is not it. Possible they will have onsite deliveries at GigaFest. I can’t see them holding cars from Austin with GigaFest coming up, which is supposed to be an opening party
SilverSp33d3r
No Longer Silver
Is reducing the backlog the immediate goal? Or is capturing all segments of this market?
I dunno. they aren’t introducing the M2, so they can’t be THAT keenly focussed on filling more slots in the market. a 280-mile MY AWD isn’t going to be a $50k car even. $55k maybe? Its just not that much different in any major way from the y’s and 3’s they’re selling now.
Cutting the backlog of higher-profit cars opens the way to selling MORE higher profit cars. Introducing a whole new model, and a whole new silo of orders ... to sell slightly less expensive cars when they call sell all the LR and P they can make and then extra doesn’t make much sense. Until they get production ramped up enough that the backlog isn’t big at all and they then have the need to do something with excess production capacity.
Excess production capacity is not on the horizon until next year at soonest.
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This validates the electric Vikings video claiming Tesla orders were up 100%.
SilverSp33d3r
No Longer Silver
If They aren’t ready to mass produce 4680, this seems to be the only logical
Solution. Completely different product and will require new orders to come in to get it.
that does make sense. it would be pretty disappointing to the folks here who have been expecting the 4680 to be a major performance enhancement, but could make a lot of sense from the view that 4680 is really supposed to be about lowering production costs.
The flip side is, just a few months -- 4? 6? into ramp-up they really would need to change over to making other versions in Austin.
This is a weird one. I def am not interested in a 280-mile EPA car, which would be much much less IRL. Unless it was, like, 1,000 lbs lighter which it won’t be.
Others of course would want it.
It does make a certain amount of sense that the Austin Y’s would have a lower range (ie use fewer cells). It certainly solves the problem of people wanting to cancel orders to switch over.
The bigger question for me is when will Fremont switch over to front castings and whatever other upgrades the Austin Y has? I don’t care about 4680, but I’d really like the stiffer frame, door panel, and whatever else they’re switching up.
The bigger question for me is when will Fremont switch over to front castings and whatever other upgrades the Austin Y has? I don’t care about 4680, but I’d really like the stiffer frame, door panel, and whatever else they’re switching up.
Cant wait any longer going to order Blue with Black no other extras today and will hold till 4680 is deliverable. Before you ask, I have experience of cars and the driving feel with 10% weight reduction and some increased torsional regidity and I could feel the difference. Also ultimately to keep up with competition they will need to make software updates to keep up with range and performance and I doubt that can be done with 2170 cars. Any fresh thoughts, oh, I do live in the east, ha
except it’s not going to be anything close to a 10 percent weight reduction or noticeable increase in stiffness.
Another issue is Austin is supposedly for eastern US. So would a new standard-range AWD model not be sold in western states? or is it for all 50 and Canada as a temporary thing.
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