Isn't that pretty close to the normal curve for the lr car? That last 3% would likely take more than 8 minutes putting it at about an hour.
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Model Y - Gigafactory Texas Production
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Yeah that SoC vs time curve is pretty close to the 2170 cars
As far as acceleration apparently not being limited at low SoC, I suspect that’s because the acceleration is already gimped on the MYAWD with the 0-60 being slower than the LR despite having the same motors.
Mrbrock
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So in comparison it is a slower charge rate. Overall charge time is the same but the LR has a bigger batter so the rate is faster. This shows that Tesla doesn’t care about rate, they want charge times to be the same. Which is why SR M3 is limited to 32A L2 while LR is 48A L2. Both take the same amount of time to charge at max rate. Similar store with L3. SR is limited to slower top speed than LR.
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Great news is our Floor Mats fit the new 2022 Giga Texas Model Y's without issue! We've provided the pictures sent by @C Need thank you again for helping the community with this.
Mrbrock
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Why did you expect them to not fit? It’s the same car. They didn’t redesign the interior to be different than Fremont. That would require different carpet and all sorts of other little pieces that would be a nightmare for them to source and differentiate.
Just wanted to be proactive with something like this as Tesla occasionally makes minor tweaks e.g. the seat rails from 2020 and 2021 MY. Also with the preinstalled seats to the battery pack upon installation, we wanted to make sure it didn't change anything fitment wise. Just wanted to be on top of things as well as assure any customers that were curious. Maybe its just us... lol
I’ll just add with these pictures being from my vehicle that I am super impressed with the quality they look super great and fit like a glove. Highly recommend!
RobDickinson
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Thats about 540kg, seats will be around 100kg, trim/carpets what 20kg? Old SR+ pack with less energy was 480kg
But there will be structural weight savings in the chassis too
But there will be structural weight savings in the chassis too
Mrbrock
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They are selling individual 4680 cells for $800 each. That's $600k+ if they sell all of them. Guess that will pay for the car...And they were on VIN 2282 as of 5/25/22.
Looked at another way....
If they sell 88 of the 4680 cells, they cover the purchase price of the car. +/- 5 or 6 cells, also covers the tax/registration/etc.
Terminator857
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Elon tells us that the 4680 battery pack has improvements coming.
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Structural pack is the right overall architecture from a physics standpoint, but it is still far from optimized
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Structural pack is the right overall architecture from a physics standpoint, but it is still far from optimized
ZenRockGarden
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Yeah, given they simply put 2 less rows of cells in the 4680 pack to produce the lower-range MYAWD, there won't be a "software fix" to make it into a MYLR.
Nope, less battery capacity is likely a manifestation of other issues like poor 4680 yield, production issues, diminished performance, etc. Musk's optimization comment could be a worst case Tesla euphemism for redesign. Checking the score board the new battery/chassis design shows it isn't as light weight as promised, doesn't have that added ~15% increased range, and arguably about as expensive as the current design although the latter is tough to compare at lower production rates. Ironically, I recall one recent earnings call where the senior management team scoffed at the need for R/D budgets.
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ZenRockGarden
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But we've literally seen the cut-away 4680 packs from the Austin factory event, counted the cells, and observed the pair of foam-pads that fill in for where the original design had cells. The numbers add up perfectly - 15% fewer cells, 15% fewer KWh, 15% less range.
Do you have evidence that the MYAWD pack has the full compliment of cells secretly hiding in it?
I'm inclined to believe Tesla's statements that there are significant cost & time savings in the chassis construction.
There are definitely fewer process steps, fewer robots needed, and that process investment is likely to yield real benefits.
Maybe there will eventually be cost savings in the 4680 batteries vs buying from Panasonic...eventually.
But the other benefits are clearly not achieved. Lower weight, commensurate range gain, charging speeds.....nope.
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