The thing about Tesla is that every car is starting to look the same, year in and year out. It's getting a little tiresome and generic, especially in this area.
and in another year, when perhaps supply catches up to demand, Tesla will perform magic tricks on sheet metal to convince people to keep buying Tesla's.
The Kia and Hyundai are extremely poor buys and can’t compare to the MYLR financially. The cheapest I was able to actually buy the top of the line model for was $6K over MSRP, putting the car within $2K of my MYLR pricing. When combined with regular off the lot depreciation a car accident totalling the car a day after purchase could end up costing you $12K out of pocket or more. Many reporting $8K-$10K dealer markups. All that does is set you up for a disaster. They also do not qualify for the rebate at all in January. Lastly Hyundai themselves use a 36 month residual value calculation of 50% MSRP. You can either give the money up front to a dealer trying to rip you off, and watch that money vaporize, or give it to the leader in the industry, have it count toward the MSRP, and help the company doing the most to solve EV issues and adoption globally. I will invest in the latter thank you.
The ADM thing is regional. You can't point to huge markups and say the car is automatically a bad buy as a result. In my area, I can get one with zero markup with a 3 month wait, which we are considering. We drove our MYLR to test an Ioniq 5 Limited and the only area it was notably behind was storage space, sound system, and the app. The Ioniq had many advantages. Actual suspension. Human-sized bottom seat cushions. Powered sunshade. Android auto. Adjustable Regen. Cooled seats. Actual wipers. Blind spot monitor. Usable V2L. 360 camera. 800V charging. I would personally take an Ioniq 5 over a Model 3 right now. The Model Ys main benefits are roominess and space, but you pay dearly to get it.
Markups is still a factor IMO. I don't think we can just pretend it's not a decision when purchasing your next car. There are people are are good at negotiation and there are people that are not. In a perfect world, MSRP is the ceiling but we know that's not the case with majority of non Tesla dealerships. If anything, hoping people call out dealership BS just as much as we're calling out Tesla's delivery exp and build quality.
For sure, I agree that deals are to be had, no countering that but the amount of effort to wheel and deal is a turn off to some. That doesn't even include the potential mind games they play with extra add ons like warranty, lo-jack, etc. There are folks that have the patience and skills to do so but there are also others that don't. The playing field is not even (Not saying it should) but at the very least Tesla is bringing a different pov on how the buying experience can be, at least up to the point where you place the order.
minimum price increase will be.....wait for it.....$7500
Given how Lyriq production keeps sliding, early 2023 is as accurate as FSD by end of year (2022). I have a RWD and AWD order and honestly sort of expect the AWD to be bumped to 2024 (mid 2023 production start) with price protection up in the air.I have 2023 AWD $65k Lyric early 2023 but they promise no price increases
I think that will happen, but on really slow timescales. Tesla is like the slow Audi with redesigns. Just look at how little the new S changed.
