vinny84
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Any insights on AP+FSD hardware on Model Y? Cameras, radar, and sensors are same as current models? I am guessing the test drive cars had HW3.
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Model Y unveiling event 2019-03-14 (official thread)
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Yeah, the Prius V 7-seat taxis were a real help when traveling with four kids in Italy - could get in one cab instead of two. Convenient for short trips.
woodisgood
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Interesting that they already know 3rd row won't be ready until 2021. There must be some work to be done still related to the back of the vehicle - perhaps related to safety of 3rd row occupants. Folks weren't really allowed to mess with the 3rd row or hatch last night so I assume those are not finalized.
5_+JqckQttqck
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I can see them offering a Hatch option or even switching 100% on the Model 3 in the future when the Y die/presses are operational. That would make the 3 perfect <3
I think it's telling that only 6 came out instead of 7. From the little I've saw on YouTuber live streams, "seats 7 adults and their gear" (or whatever the marketing verbage is) seems like a pipe dream.
Or maybe the 7th person had to contort themselves so much that they were stuck in there and had to be extracted off-stage...
woodisgood
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I think you figured out why the 3rd row was kept folded down. The poor soul spent the duration of the test rides under there.
SageBrush
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Just to add some perspective to this, while the statement is true, it only (or close to it) effects those whom own an EV and do not have PV. I think that if we polled all the EV owners with rates above 30 cents a kWh for their marginal EV charging we would find only a handful without PV.
It's so far out, it doesn't matter what's on the demo car. IMHO. They aren't proving the electronics at this point, but everything else.
And that prized parking spot on the lawn at school functions where the parking lot is full!
I think it's very possible the Model Y is THE vehicle that signals the death knell for SUV popularity.
Is this where we are now? That a few inches higher seating position is what defines an SUV? When the SUV is nearly indistinguishable from the car it's based on, will people finally start to ask "What do I need this for, then?"
Why would anyone purchase this over the Model 3? What single thing does it do better than the Model 3? The hatchback? Is that it?
Is having a slightly taller flank and a slightly higher roofline really that important to people? What shortcoming of the Model 3 do those items address? Is headroom an issue in the Model 3?
Also, someone is going to have to show me how there is a third row of seats in this design, because there is simply no way. Unless there's an extended wheelbase version coming.
Somewhere along the line, automakers forgot there was supposed to be certain amount of U in an SUV to justify buying the thing. An SUV with a sedan roofline. Everyone has lost the plot.
Is this where we are now? That a few inches higher seating position is what defines an SUV? When the SUV is nearly indistinguishable from the car it's based on, will people finally start to ask "What do I need this for, then?"
Why would anyone purchase this over the Model 3? What single thing does it do better than the Model 3? The hatchback? Is that it?
Is having a slightly taller flank and a slightly higher roofline really that important to people? What shortcoming of the Model 3 do those items address? Is headroom an issue in the Model 3?
Also, someone is going to have to show me how there is a third row of seats in this design, because there is simply no way. Unless there's an extended wheelbase version coming.
Somewhere along the line, automakers forgot there was supposed to be certain amount of U in an SUV to justify buying the thing. An SUV with a sedan roofline. Everyone has lost the plot.
Agreed.
The biggest issue for me is the lack of any utility advantage over the 3. Tesla forgot that designs/models should differentiate themselves by the problems they solve and the solutions they offer. A hatch does not make a car an suv.
The fact they rammed a third row in this thing and are advertising it as a 7 seater suggests to me that they really don’t understand the market they are going after long term. Short term... sure the car will sell just due to the rarity of desirable electric car alternatives. But this is a car that does not provide solutions above those already provided by the 3.
The biggest issue for me is the lack of any utility advantage over the 3. Tesla forgot that designs/models should differentiate themselves by the problems they solve and the solutions they offer. A hatch does not make a car an suv.
The fact they rammed a third row in this thing and are advertising it as a 7 seater suggests to me that they really don’t understand the market they are going after long term. Short term... sure the car will sell just due to the rarity of desirable electric car alternatives. But this is a car that does not provide solutions above those already provided by the 3.
TT97
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If anything, it would be a death knell to sedans. You get the same benefits of a sedan but with additional utility/storage. Without the taller flank would be great.
When I was in Italy last year, I was counting sedans vs. other cars and it was probably less than 1 in 20. They have vehicle for sale in Italy called "station/sports wagons" which are great but I think they may be illegal to sell in the U.S.
This is precisely my point.
Long ago, people stopped buying station wagons because of the negative connotations; no one wants to drive the dorky car their dad drove. Folks moved to minivans. Then people stopped buying them because no one wanted to drive a mommymobile. Someday, young people will not want to drive an SUV like their parents did. I guarantee this.
There will always be SUVs, and minivans, and station wagons. But when this is what is being trotted out as an SUV, then what is the justification of this over a station wagon? Ride height? Are folks going to figure out soon that we don't live in Angola and ride height is such a non-requirement in the US as to be laughable?
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Well it does have blacked out trim too, so....
I would give her the whole back row in the Leaf and she could lay in it sideways. She would sweat so much though, especially in summer, that I was constantly treating the leather. That’s why I need a Tesla, because the interior is easy to clean with baby wipes.
Also, I had the Bose sound system so I could crank up the volume whenever she talked. That’s why premium audio is a must for me.
I wouldn't have parked it next to the X, makes it look like Danny Divito in the movie twins standing next to Arnold.
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Lhshockey24
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AMEN!!! Imagine how many millions of $$ this takes away from the detailing shops that have been raking us over the coals for years. $1,500 for chrome delete! No more...
If I had kids and drove carpool or such I would be looking at this seriously. I love my Model 3 LR AWD so know I would probably already love this vehicle. And yes the liftgate, which I miss from our MS, is one of those determining features for people.
After the reveal there was someone’s test drive video I think (or maybe a shot of the inside during the reveal) where I could see a woman in the 3rd row so the seats were there. Weren’t two seats shown?
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