I’m fine with the increase as long as they are rolling the profits into building new stations and preparing for the v3 retrofit. I’d rather pay $0.30 and have plentiful stations than wait in line for $0.20 charges on a road trip.
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The cost to charge at my home is ~$0.11 per KWh. If the supercharger prices are in the over $0.30 range then that puts the economics of road trips closer to ICE vehicles, especially with gas prices continuing to be low.
Probably not.I hope the increased prices are only temporary until Tesla gets a few more goals accomplished and profit goals are obtained.
The cost to charge at my home is ~$0.11 per KWh. If the supercharger prices are in the over $0.30 range then that puts the economics of road trips closer to ICE vehicles, especially with gas prices continuing to be low.
When my car did that I wasn't charged for using that SC. Have you been charged to Supercharge at that location?
When my car did that I wasn't charged for using that SC. Have you been charged to Supercharge at that location?
1 kw = 4.13 miles. That’s $0.063 / mile.Lol. $0.26/kW is not cheap. Works out to being no better than a decent hybrid if you're one of the non-garaged and your only option is SCs. And before someone with no idea of practical usage chimes in with simple math, know that the range hit in town can approach or exceed 50% for short haul trips, while still getting every bit of 100% less degradation on the (open) road.
Captive market, folks - it will be what it will be. And I will be driving pre-April 2017 Model Ss until the wheels fall off before I pay those rates.
If you don't drive a lot and/or don't live in one of the higher-priced areas, supercharging will still be a sweet deal for most for the foreseeable futur
Not to mention that despite all the silly rhetoric to the contrary, NOBODY yet has anything close to the SC network Tesla has. One would have thought the EA buildout would be further along but it appears they're finding out the hard way some of the hurdles that Tesla has repeatedly and successfully overcome these past 5-ish years (much like Tesla has encountered numerous hurdles in building the cars that other manufacturers resolved years ago).
Edit: I see in the simultaneous post above that $0.26 is now $0.31. That's quite a jump for many markets that weren't close to $0.26 (heretofore the airspace of CA, MA, and a few others). Like I said - captive market.
1 kw = 4.13 miles. That’s $0.063 / mile.
Yes, idle fees still apply to everyone. That doesn't violate what was originally offered with the old cars, because what was offered was charging, not parking there blocking the spot and preventing other people from using it, so they are totally justified in penalizing the "free" folks from being hooked up while not charging.Is Tesla able to charge idle fees to free supercharging cars?
Yip, this is the attitude of those of us who pay for it. I have heard those who don't talk about they top off so they don't have to come back sooner. Our month-old Supercharger is full from 9 am to 9 pm, and I know it's charging full speed these days, so it's down to just those topping off or those shopping who aren't ready to pick up their cars yet. I wonder if idle fees will get the latter moving along after they have been bitten once.Nothing is worse than needing a 10 minute charge and having to wait 10 minutes to get it because people are topping off.
Alameda needed one really bad.Yip, this is the attitude of those of us who pay for it. I have heard those who don't talk about they top off so they don't have to come back sooner. Our month-old Supercharger is full from 9 am to 9 pm, and I know it's charging full speed these days, so it's down to just those topping off or those shopping who aren't ready to pick up their cars yet. I wonder if idle fees will get the latter moving along after they have been bitten once.
-Randy
would be nice if they could put some reasonable limitations on the free stuff.Yip, this is the attitude of those of us who pay for it. I have heard those who don't talk about they top off so they don't have to come back sooner. Our month-old Supercharger is full from 9 am to 9 pm, and I know it's charging full speed these days, so it's down to just those topping off or those shopping who aren't ready to pick up their cars yet. I wonder if idle fees will get the latter moving along after they have been bitten once.
-Randy
How many are in Bay Area compared to the rest of California?I love how they lowered the CA pricing back to .28$, but its still nearly 15% higher than that in most of the bay area.. why..!