I guess there is nothing preventing tesla from rolling refresh P90DLs back to 1500 amps in a software update. They never said we would get more than 532 shaft horsepower. That would make the P100DL more appealing over buying a P90D and paying $10,000 after delivery to upgrade it to ludicrous.
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Newer P90DL makes 662 hp at the battery!!!
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Roadrunner13
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Now that would cause an uproar!
...and some of you thought the P90DL v1 people were just whiners for not getting 10.9...
When v2 owner would discover something like that, we'll get to 200 pages on this thread in a week!!!
...WITH many lawsuits threats ;-)
What's also questionable for the Model X
P90D = 250 miles
P100D = 289 miles.
+39 miles for 10kw or 256wh mile.
So their "EPA estimated" is another farce or the 90kw batteries are short changed and the 100kw may be over provisioned a bit.
mikes_fsd
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They could say it was just a temporary field test to see how the cars would handle the increased power that the p100dl would deliver.
And of course without the newfangled cooling system, these ancient packs just can't stand up to 1600 amps over the long haul.
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stopcrazypp
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Tesla tests the cars and provides those numbers to the EPA. The EPA only does random audits/testing, but does not do testing of all vehicles themselves (they don't have the resources to do so).
The P90DL might put down better numbers than the P100DL, if the increased range of the p100dl came at the expense of higher internal resistance.
I suspect the latest P90D packs may be the P100D packs, but loaded with the lower capacity cells. So ignore my tesla excuse about newfangled cooling in my previous post.
I suspect the latest P90D packs may be the P100D packs, but loaded with the lower capacity cells. So ignore my tesla excuse about newfangled cooling in my previous post.
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You missed my point. The EPA numbers are coming from the certified 5 stage EPA test procedure. Tesla isn't just making a "farce" of it as the poster said.
lolachampcar
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Most of us (almost everyone) do not use ideal as it takes pixie dust to actually make that range. Having never been allowed access to pixie dust, I've never seen anything close to ideal milage range.
Many thanks to msnow (post below). I had no idea where that stuff came from.
Many thanks to msnow (post below). I had no idea where that stuff came from.
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If you drive downhill both ways the car can manufacture pixie dust.
Model S M.D.
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Definitely use rated instead of ideal. And after you get an idea of how many RM/% you use, you can just switch to % and not have to think about it too much anymore...
It is possible that the newer cars (and the P100D) have new inverters, i.e. it is not just the battery that is boosting performance.
According to JB this is one way of boosting the 0-60 time.
Tesla Model 3 exclusive leaked specs: 300kW+ inverter architecture putting its power capacity near Model S
Is there an easy way to check without pulling the car apart?
According to JB this is one way of boosting the 0-60 time.
Tesla Model 3 exclusive leaked specs: 300kW+ inverter architecture putting its power capacity near Model S
Is there an easy way to check without pulling the car apart?
Tesla said there were some upgrades made to the wiring harness and other small differences, but the drivetrain remains the same. The improvements to Ludicrous Mode acceleration are basically entirely due to the improvements in the battery pack.
The improvements come from less voltage sag and higher current draw from the battery pack.
Of course I'm speculating like everyone else here but there are many things that could be responsible for the increased power.
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