Andyw2100
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Unless they also swap his battery while he's not looking, I strongly suspect fiksegts is going to see exactly the same things after the firmware update as before.
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Newer P90DL makes 662 hp at the battery!!!
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Unless they also swap his battery while he's not looking, I strongly suspect fiksegts is going to see exactly the same things after the firmware update as before.
Yeah. Totally agree. And it makes me sad. My car isn't any slower than it was before we found this, but it's the P85D all over again. Never going to hit 10.9.
I sure so hope this isn't the case.
I'm hoping that there is an explanation other than just newer builds for what we're seeing in the two examples that we have so far.
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After my ludicrous update back in April, I recorded 304 V x 1522 A = 462688 W from the CANbus with my P85D. That was a run with appr. 90 % SOC and just before Max Battery Power was ready.
I have had this recording converted to Bosch format, if someone is interested to have a look. Can be examined and graphed with WinDarab, available on Bosch Motorsport Homepage.
I have had this recording converted to Bosch format, if someone is interested to have a look. Can be examined and graphed with WinDarab, available on Bosch Motorsport Homepage.
FWIW, on 2.20.30, and using Max Battery Power today, I hit the normal 450kW.Maybe newer firmware… looking forward to what fiksegts sees. Mine was a Sept 2015 build.
Don't feel bad. This is what everyone else has reported except for one P90D. It's very likely coming to all P90Ds if it's not related to a hardware change.
I take it back. I guess we now have two that have made it way past the mid 450s. So now you should try it again at 95+%. Can you get mid 490s?
Except hat a 457KW without max battery is still WAY more than it was before without max battery.
6 hp away from 691 hp. It seems possible that a PD car might finally produce the hp originally promised.
Can I edit the title? The number needs to change from 662 to 685.
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As I've said previously in this thread and people have documented in others...At some point prior to the refresh Tesla introduced a new 90 kWh pack on the 90D with a different Tesla Part Number. This battery has more capacity (higher EPA Rated Range) than the previous 90 kWh pack. Why wouldn't they have done the same thing in the P90D? Doesn't that make the most sense and possibly account for the greater power?
Sure, but the part numbers say "don't use before cars built on April 11", and ShotgunF15E's car was a mid-March build. My car does have a 1063792-00-A battery, so it is the old style (replaced in December as well, before they released any newer ones).
are those numbers from drag strip? I have never seen a P90DL with higher than 118 mph trap speed. These numbers are implying the trap speed of P85DL is higher than P90DL which doesn't make sense.
I'd like to see screenshots of those pack part numbers but in the regular 90D world we were seeing users claiming higher capacity as early as last December/January. One user was showing current EPA capacity on a loaner car built last February/March. It's possible the battery was upgraded before the part number was.
So the April 11 date that everyone is talking about here, is this the same as the -E and -C newer 90 kwh battery? or are we talking about some other HW or SW changes here?
This site will keep you current as to some of the top reported elapsed times and trap speeds on a drag strip for many vehicles, the Tesla included.
Fast Tesla Model-Ss 1/4 Mile 0-60 Drag Racing - DragTimes.com
Up until a couple of days ago, his were the highest trap speeds ever reported on a dragstrip by a Tesla.
As of about three days ago, the current fastest trap speed recorded for a Tesla now belongs to forum member zhur0002.
Honest P90D(L) Quarter Mile Performance
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Humm. 457KW does not seem WAY more than 456KW
By the way, I just did a run with my non-refreshed P90D without Max Batt Pwr and got 459KW at 90%. With Max Batt Pwr I'm now getting 467KW at 97%. This is with battery #1063792-00-A and software 2.20.30. Before this revision I never achieved anything above 453KW with or without Max Batt Pwr. There is little doubt that Tesla has made the Max Batt Pwr more effective. It appears to be much more effective for the new refreshed Model S.
The previous best 456K on either P90DL or P85DL was with max battery, not without. The best I've hit at 90% without max battery is 433 unless I have just supercharged then it's in the mid 450s. If I don't supercharge, I need to use max battery to hit mid 450s.
So if you were getting a best of 453KW before with or without Max Battery, and you're now getting 467KW at 97% with Max Battery, seems that you've picked up approximately 14KW.
Doesn't seem like very much of a difference between then and now.
It will be interesting to see if it picks up more power with a more recent software version
Interesting.
Why do you think this happens?
That is, why are you able to hit mid 450s after you supercharge without Max Battery if you Supercharge, but if you don't Supercharge you need to use Max Battery in order to get to the mid 450s?
Also are the two cars in the 500KW range seeing this after Supercharging, or are they seeing it after charging in some other manner and using Max Battery?
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