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Just spoke to Tesla.
"We believe this is a firmware related issue." Seems to be related to range mode also based on our conversation.
Other folks in range mode too? I was.
Just spoke to Tesla.
"We believe this is a firmware related issue." Seems to be related to range mode also based on our conversation.
Other folks in range mode too? I was.
My vote would be to have your wife take the ICE just for peace of mind -- for both of you.
Another call from Tesla.
Engineering confirms that it is a bug in the latest firmware that "will be fixed soon." And that the car "is safe to drive in the meantime."
Not 100% sure how those two statements go together considering what happened yesterday, but I'll go with it for now.
updated to .167 Sat. Drove about 70 miles in the rain Sunday.
This AM got the Power Reduced message just driving mellow in nice weather.
I think I was in range mode, have to check.
I love my Model S, but Tesla is suffering from self-inflicted wounds. They say Musk is a micro manager, and if that's true, then maybe this is all his doing. Or maybe he has put too much trust in someone at the company who is making bad decisions. This is a car, not an iPhone. A bug like this that affects the drive train should be headline news. Tesla deserves to be beaten up over this. It's completely moronic and makes me question how this company is being run.
Same thing happened to me today (P85D with .167 update from last night), and it resulted in a particularly dangerous situation. Was going thru some uphill twisties where you lose sight of cars in front/behind you every 3 to 5 car lengths. Came around a right-hand turn and heard "beep-beep-beep", which I had only heard before when the "early collision warning" alarm went off. A moment later I got "car needs service" and all power disappeared underfoot -- I was left stranded on the uphill side of a blind curve with no power available at all.
Very scary as I sat there trying to figure out what to do -- pulled over as far as I could in the 10 feet of coasting I had remaining before coming to a standstill, but was still sticking out 2/3rds in the road (since there was no shoulder), and put my hazard lights on. Just then I saw a large truck come up behind me emerging from the blind curve -- fortunately he wasn't going that fast -- so I honked to be sure he saw me. After he passed, I decided to put the car in Reverse, then into Drive again, and luckily power was restored and I was able to drive out of there.
Whole incident probably lasted 45 seconds, but I was scared sh**less.
One other thing -- at one other point in the drive I felt something funny -- a "lurch" when traveling downhill that caused the car to lose speed for a moment -- then all continued as normal.
I called Tesla Service and they said they pulled the logs and forwarded to a service advisor, who is to call me tomorrow.
For anyone else who this has happened to, was there a "3 beeps" audio alert associated with your power shutdown? Or was what I heard an indication that collision warning system thought that hillside next to me was another car? (Just trying to figure out if "early warning detection" is correlated with "power shutdown" in .167)
Needless to say, this is an awfully bad bug to instantly lose all power when traveling at speed, and could have resulted in serious injury. This incident has shaken my faith in Tesla QA and the pace with which they are updating software for the D.
-- David
Saddest statement ever made to a Tesla owner. And this is supposed to be good for Tesla's image?
GREAT! Just great! Now Tesla's software updates are causing cars to shut down or reduce power?
TESLA GET YOUR **** TOGETHER!
My god.
It's one thing for a software update to have some minor bugs, like lines not appearing correctly on the navigation, etc., but to have a software update basically kill your car while you are driving and freaking you out like this? I've said this for a long time... this is Tesla's game to lose. Tesla has been on the defensive lately and rightfully so. They are making poor management decisions and their software update vetting process is a complete joke.
I love my Model S, but Tesla is suffering from self-inflicted wounds. They say Musk is a micro manager, and if that's true, then maybe this is all his doing. Or maybe he has put too much trust in someone at the company who is making bad decisions. This is a car, not an iPhone. A bug like this that affects the drive train should be headline news. Tesla deserves to be beaten up over this. It's completely moronic and makes me question how this company is being run.
Same thing happened to me today (P85D with .167 update from last night), and it resulted in a particularly dangerous situation. Was going thru some uphill twisties where you lose sight of cars in front/behind you every 3 to 5 car lengths. Came around a right-hand turn and heard "beep-beep-beep", which I had only heard before when the "early collision warning" alarm went off. A moment later I got "car needs service" and all power disappeared underfoot -- I was left stranded on the uphill side of a blind curve with no power available at all.
Very scary as I sat there trying to figure out what to do -- pulled over as far as I could in the 10 feet of coasting I had remaining before coming to a standstill, but was still sticking out 2/3rds in the road (since there was no shoulder), and put my hazard lights on. Just then I saw a large truck come up behind me emerging from the blind curve -- fortunately he wasn't going that fast -- so I honked to be sure he saw me. After he passed, I decided to put the car in Reverse, then into Drive again, and luckily power was restored and I was able to drive out of there.
Whole incident probably lasted 45 seconds, but I was scared sh**less.
One other thing -- at one other point in the drive I felt something funny -- a "lurch" when traveling downhill that caused the car to lose speed for a moment -- then all continued as normal.
I called Tesla Service and they said they pulled the logs and forwarded to a service advisor, who is to call me tomorrow.
For anyone else who this has happened to, was there a "3 beeps" audio alert associated with your power shutdown? Or was what I heard an indication that collision warning system thought that hillside next to me was another car? (Just trying to figure out if "early warning detection" is correlated with "power shutdown" in .167)
Needless to say, this is an awfully bad bug to instantly lose all power when traveling at speed, and could have resulted in serious injury. This incident has shaken my faith in Tesla QA and the pace with which they are updating software for the D.
-- David
Looks like Scott Adams might have a Tesla, too: Dilbert Comic Strip on 2015-02-22 | Dilbert by Scott Adams
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Never thought I'd post something that compared Elon with PHB. But this is pretty scary.
For my car they are talking about bringing it in to the service center as they are concerned about a possibly cooling issue. I'll ask them further about the .167 firmware but ultimately if they want to bring it in I'll have to go ahead and do that.
Just spoke to Tesla.
"We believe this is a firmware related issue." Seems to be related to range mode also based on our conversation.
Other folks in range mode too? I was.