There were some interesting arguments made over whether $2500 (or $2000) was fair for supercharging back with the Model S 60. Personally, I think it's worth 2000 simply to future proof escalating energy costs. I do not think it is remotely possible to make the case that free supercharging is worth $5000. I would just as soon keep my free supercharging, but I can't. That would be an absurd financial decision. Oh well. I too would have taken a credit toward a future purchase or even free FSD (which may not arrive before the car wears out). Tesla needs to hire an unintended consequences czar to evaluate these knee-jerk moves in advance.
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Performance Upgrade Price Change!
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Agree, I take delivery next week of the p3d- and trying to get clarification if I can just get a new Vin with the p3d+ for the same price. I called last night and was told yes, but then the sales guy at the Tesla store who gave me the performance test drive and upgraded me told me that is not the case. I am calling back today. let me know how your situation goes. I don't see why you simply could not refuse delivery and then get a p3d+ vin.
Sorry if I missed among the + fury... what do us P owners who did not buy + package get besides screwed? I mean, I didn’t want to pay 5k for it but would have taken free! Plus maybe L and track mode!!
Hey, where's the refund (or some other form of compensation) for those of us who bought a MS 90D that was discontinued 2 months later and replaced with a bigger battery (100 kWh) plus standard PUP. If I had just waited a couple of more months to pull the trigger I could have gotten a better car for the same price....hmmm
I realize my example is slightly different but the outcome is still the same...accelerated depreciation of our cars.
Tesla set this precedent long ago (i.e. price cut of the 60kWh to 75kWh upgrade is another example)
Too bad for me that Fred doesn't own a MS 90D...
I realize my example is slightly different but the outcome is still the same...accelerated depreciation of our cars.
Tesla set this precedent long ago (i.e. price cut of the 60kWh to 75kWh upgrade is another example)
Too bad for me that Fred doesn't own a MS 90D...
Someone posted this on Facebook and I think is a good point:
Free supercharging for life might be worth far more than we think. If this is a million mile car, that can be rented out as a self driving taxi, that’s 250,000 kWh of free charging. At .25 cents per kWh, that’s $62,500. If your car makes money for each mile it’s driven, the faster it can charge the more money it’ll make.
Let say you drive the car for 7-10 years and then you decide you want to get a new car. Instead of getting next to nothing from trading the car in you want to keep the car as a self driving taxi and make some money
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Free supercharging for life might be worth far more than we think. If this is a million mile car, that can be rented out as a self driving taxi, that’s 250,000 kWh of free charging. At .25 cents per kWh, that’s $62,500. If your car makes money for each mile it’s driven, the faster it can charge the more money it’ll make.
Let say you drive the car for 7-10 years and then you decide you want to get a new car. Instead of getting next to nothing from trading the car in you want to keep the car as a self driving taxi and make some money
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This is actually great news for P3D owners! We get $5k back? That’s awesome. Track mode for P3D-, nice! Yet it sounds like people are still complaining for some reason? It’s like an early Christmas present, and probably the best one I’ve ever got.
Someone posted this on Facebook and I think is a good point:
Free supercharging for life might be worth far more than we think. If this is a million mile car, that can be rented out as a self driving taxi, that’s 250,000 kWh of free charging. At .25 cents per kWh, that’s $62,500. If your car makes money for each mile it’s driven, the faster it can charge the more money it’ll make.
Let say you drive the car for 7-10 years and then you decide you want to get a new car. Instead of getting next to nothing from trading the car in you want to keep the car a self driving taxi and make some money
Free supercharging and commercial usage is against Tesla’s terms of service. I bet Tesla’s takes a chunk of cash to reconcile their views on this.
It’s wishful thinking but this example doesn’t hold water.
Someone posted this on Facebook and I think is a good point:
Free supercharging for life might be worth far more than we think. If this is a million mile car, that can be rented out as a self driving taxi, that’s 250,000 kWh of free charging. At .25 cents per kWh, that’s $62,500. If your car makes money for each mile it’s driven, the faster it can charge the more money it’ll make.
Let say you drive the car for 7-10 years and then you decide you want to get a new car. Instead of getting next to nothing from trading the car in you want to keep the car a self driving taxi and make some money
This assumes that you supercharge exclusively and that FSD becomes a thing. I really believe that level 5 will be achieved some day, and I love that Tesla is pushing the envelope and forcing others to do the same. But, I don't think we're really that close. I hope I'm wrong on that.
5-10 years from now? sounds achievable. How long ICE cars last this days 20-30 years. I see 90's honda civics all the time.
I'm really struggling with this whole situation. I'm supposed to leave in an hour to pick-up my 3D, which I was happy with at the previous price points. As they stand now, I'd definitely spend an extra $6k to upgrade it to a P-. I have a call into the delivery center to see what my options are, but they seem to have no idea at this point. I'd be happy to get my exact car flashed to a P- for $6k, but I don't think Tesla has had enough time with this whole situation to sort out the options.
Nobody can say Tesla ownership isn't a bit of an adventure
Nobody can say Tesla ownership isn't a bit of an adventure
Spot on. Anyone and everyone at Tesla should have saw this coming.
Not one person had any balls to stand up this bull *sugar* and this saddens me. If you love your boss you would have made a stand here.
Exactly, and there are so many other examples. This is a really bad decision, resulting in an avalanche of unhappy customers because their name isn’t Fred and they can’t cry to Elon when these types of things impact them. I want my money from the price drop on the 90D that happened 1 week after delivery, as well as the gen 2 seats in my 3, and all other enhancements that have been made, and I want ap2 on my ap1 car, and I demand a free upgrade to ap2.5 and to 3 as soon as that comes out. I am an early adopter and I demand to get everything I want for free. Oh, and when will I get my free Roadster 2.0?
I'm really struggling with this whole situation. I'm supposed to leave in an hour to pick-up my 3D, which I was happy with at the previous price points. As they stand now, I'd definitely spend an extra $6k to upgrade it to a P-. I have a call into the delivery center to see what my options are, but they seem to have no idea at this point. I'd be happy to get my exact car flashed to a P- for $6k, but I don't think Tesla has had enough time with this whole situation to sort out the options.
Nobody can say Tesla ownership isn't a bit of an adventure
This does not sound like an option. Either AWD or P+ for ~$10k. I would not count on a $5k discount from an off menu P- purchase when all info is on the table. You have the benefit of an informed buying decision.
Dr. J
Active Member
I agree. The clear options are to cancel my current order and buy a P+ with "free" performance upgrade package, or keep it as it. My issue is the solution I'd ideally like is the gray area of what Tesla is doing with existing P- (unsold) cars. The more I think about it, the more likely I think it's not an option for any "new" orders to get any version of the P-.
Maximilien
Member
I'm really struggling with this whole situation. I'm supposed to leave in an hour to pick-up my 3D, which I was happy with at the previous price points. As they stand now, I'd definitely spend an extra $6k to upgrade it to a P-. I have a call into the delivery center to see what my options are, but they seem to have no idea at this point. I'd be happy to get my exact car flashed to a P- for $6k, but I don't think Tesla has had enough time with this whole situation to sort out the options.
Nobody can say Tesla ownership isn't a bit of an adventure
I highly doubt you can get P3D- for $59K.
Either P3D+ for $64K or 3D for $53K
