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not sure, but average sales price of $70k before TTL and Markups is hard to swallow for sure.
Don’t disagree at with that. I never looked at one or cross shopped it as it’s not big enough for my daily use. If someone is into smaller hatchbacks, I can see owning the GV60 over a model 3 so long as you’re not touring in it. What are the markup you are seeing on the GV60? The new GV70ev and XC90ev could be good sellers. Personally, I think all these car companies for exception of Tesla are going to have a very hard time producing enough to keep up with demand.
THIS has me thinking R1S. This will be a game changer for me. I like my ’22 MYP and would like to keep it, perhaps give it to my wife and get the R1S. The cost is certainly making me think twice. I’m not sure I want to spend $90K+ for it.
I test drove the R1T and MYP the same day. I like both. I can't afford the R1T and the charging on road trips would be difficult. There is no question for me that the Rivian is a better vehicle. I loved the R1t, but not the $80k price.
Just imagine the potential if Tesla would just buy Rivian in order to have a high quality SUV (on the truck frame). Tesla hw4 and charging network in the Rivian body.
Sigh…..
Sigh…..
Totally agree. When I heard they were making a non quad motor (dual motor ) and said it was cheaper...I did not realize that it had the price tag of that $80k..o well.....
I have owned a R1T for 13 months and a MYLR for 6 months. It’s hard to compare the two since the mission of both is so different. The only valid comparison between the two is software competence and support. What I can say is that while Tesla is a much more mature software OS, Rivian is working very hard to keep updating the vehicle OS and is very diligent about pushing OTA updates every 4-6 weeks squashing bugs and enhancing the vehicle experience. Both vehicles tick different boxes and I’d really hate to have to make a decision between the two.
but man. . those headlights. why oval rings? they are a nice alternative but if they were cheaper I would've picked on up.
they're two different platforms no? one's a truck and one's a compact suv. if I had money I'd get the r1t for myself and the MYLR for the family use.
Pricedm
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The design comes from classic oval carabiner. Part of the "outdoor" design theme.
I rather deal with an old square headlight like on the old fords than that oval design. it's just weird and ugh.
rpo
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Yeah, but the MY can't realistically go 325 miles on a charge which results in the charging rate also being fake and somewhat useless as a comparison tool. Tesla can show 44 miles/hr as the charge rate but we all know it's more like 35. The 2023 Mach E claims 285 miles on a charge, and Inside EV's test made it 290 miles. EVERY Tesla fell way short EVERY time in their testing whereas most other manufactures match or exceed their rating. If the Mach E showed the real miles/hr charge rate, it would be 33-34.
Pricedm
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Been a while since I "range tested" my 2018 Model 3 but yeah it went the distance. Arriving at a v3 Supercharger with 5% SOC made for a quick battery charging session.
Does this even matter for home charging? --> "Tesla can show 44 miles/hr as the charge rate but we all know it's more like 35."
Does this even matter for home charging? --> "Tesla can show 44 miles/hr as the charge rate but we all know it's more like 35."
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I’ve posted this before but I have routinely gotten 240 wh/mi in my MY LR. For a 330 mile range that equates to 330x0.24 = 79.2 kWh which is right in line with the battery size quotes I’ve seen.
This is, of course, under ideal conditions - no wind, not going faster than 55-60 MPH, clear, warm but not hot weather, etc. but it quite possible.
The bigger issue, IMO is there is no consistent way to rate and test EVs we see results from different methodologies in different makes and models making comparisons difficult at best.
This is, of course, under ideal conditions - no wind, not going faster than 55-60 MPH, clear, warm but not hot weather, etc. but it quite possible.
The bigger issue, IMO is there is no consistent way to rate and test EVs we see results from different methodologies in different makes and models making comparisons difficult at best.
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