Brovane
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Probably much faster.
Just supporting 250kW the same as the Model 3 would be good progress. Can V3 supercharging stations support anything higher than 250kW?
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Probably much faster.
V3 is 250kW max. However, the Model 3 can only maintain 250kW for a few minutes (V3 is actually only 5 minutes faster than unpaired V2).Just supporting 250kW the same as the Model 3 would be good progress. Can V3 supercharging stations support anything higher than 250kW?
uhm, that defies the laws of conservation of energy.
It's a machine that splits up water or air into cold and warm water/air.uhm, that defies the laws of conservation of energy.
It's a machine that splits up water or air into cold and warm water/air.
So if you got like 100 liter of water of 20 degrees Celcius it splits it up like 50 liter of 30 degrees Celcius and 50 liter of 10 degrees Celcius. After that it throws away the one you don't need and uses the one you do need.
It's very efficient and you can often use it both to heat up your house, as well as to cool down your house (like an airco).
The only bad thing about it is that it doesn't work below 0 degrees Celcius and because of that struggles to work efficient in the winter, then you'll have to use a (usually) build in electric boiler which uses a lot of electricity.
500 mile range would motivate me to trade my '17S 75D. I seldom venture far from home, but when I do it seems it is always to some little coastal town without a destination charger or supercharger. Sure, I can get there but I can not drive around sight seeing and then hope to get back to the last supercharger I used on the way in.
My electric water heater is 355% efficient (energy factor of 3.55), so there is a lot of room past 100%.
This is like saying I need a 30 gallon gas tank because I "don't want" to top it off or go under a quarter tank. Full-blown silly.
I need a car with 500 miles of range because I refuse to use 200 miles of its range.
Unless you've got a heat pump water heater (never heard of one), then no it's not. . You might want to take another look at those specs.
All fair points, which have nothing to do with the point I was responding to (refusing to use the top 10 or bottom 20% of the battery when necessary).It's alway the california folks that don't get it. Tell you what... feel free to not buy a 500 mile rang battery if/when it comes out. With my real life experience in more remote, cold and less well SC serviced area of the world, I'll sign up tomorrow.
One other circumstance to think of. If you're a traveling business person, sometimes you need to day in/out trips to a customer where there are no chargers. Then you need to cut your useable range in half because the trip is two way on one charge. I've got a bunch of customers that I simply can't visit in summer in my 100D for this reason. And on a cold, snowy Canadian winter day, pfft... not even close. You lose 50% range due to the weather. And then you've got a cold soak at the far end that loses you even more.
Finally, what about reducing load on superchargers? That should be significant even in Calif. Every person who can make a trip without SCing means another open spot for somebody else. If every EV had a range of 500 miles, you'd have a lot empty supercharger stalls.
Unless you've got a heat pump water heater (never heard of one), then no it's not. . You might want to take another look at those specs.
At my last house, I had a Daikin Altherma electric heat pump that heated water - both for domestic hot water to store in a tank, and to run through the floors for radiant heating. It had a COP of 4.0. Because it was for the whole house and did double-duty and there was no backup, it was a pretty big one...smaller ones had better COPs.
Sure 500 miles. Well except what they don't tell you is 250 miles in the winter.
Yes I own a Model S, and I get 1/2 the mileage when it's cold, the battery just
is less efficient and the heater uses WAY too much electricity for some reason.
A tiny 500 W space heater would heat that cabin in a minute and not waste
the constant battery drain of Tesla's super innefficient heater.
Unless you've got a heat pump water heater (never heard of one), then no it's not. . You might want to take another look at those specs.
no longer a rumor. jason hughes found new references in the latest BMS with packIds that incidate 109kWh *usable* meaning a 115 or 120kw pack size. its on his twitter. something about 108 cells per group ~450 volts per pack which is a different design than current architecture.
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As another Ontario resident, I'd be all over the hypothetical 500 mile range Tesla just because of the range loss in the winters even though I don't drive a lot on a daily basis. I just want that option, plain and simple.It's alway the california folks that don't get it. Tell you what... feel free to not buy a 500 mile rang battery if/when it comes out. With my real life experience in more remote, cold and less well SC serviced area of the world, I'll sign up tomorrow.
One other circumstance to think of. If you're a traveling business person, sometimes you need to day in/out trips to a customer where there are no chargers. Then you need to cut your useable range in half because the trip is two way on one charge. I've got a bunch of customers that I simply can't visit in summer in my 100D for this reason. And on a cold, snowy Canadian winter day, pfft... not even close. You lose 50% range due to the weather. And then you've got a cold soak at the far end that loses you even more.
Finally, what about reducing load on superchargers? That should be significant even in Calif. Every person who can make a trip without SCing means another open spot for somebody else. If every EV had a range of 500 miles, you'd have a lot empty supercharger stalls.