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[Rumors] Spoke to an Insider Yesterday...

Discussion in 'Model 3' started by MrJones390, Feb 28, 2016.

  1. chance1117

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    Do they do that with the S or X? I haven't spent much time on Tesla's site configuring cars.
     
  2. Twiglett

    Twiglett Single pedal driver

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    If you want the power lift gate or performance you have no choice - leather only.
    If Tesla did anything about that they would be one of the few manufacturers who did.
     
  3. MP3Mike

    MP3Mike Well-Known Member

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    No, that is only some leather trim with the premium interior, the leather seats are a separate option that comes with the next-gen seats.
     
  4. ecarfan

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    That is not correct. The leather seats are an option that is independent of other options. You can easily verify that yourself by going to Order your Tesla Model S | Tesla Motors
    Note that by default, the textile seats are selected. Now select the Premium package (which includes the power lift gate). The total price increases by $3K, the price of that option. The textile seats are still selected. Leather seats are not selected unless you add them.
     
  5. brianman

    brianman Burrito Founder

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    I think folks may be talking different timeframes here. Back when it was a kerfuffle at the annual shareholder's meeting, I believe the configurations blocked you out of certain features if you attempted to configure a non-leather interior.

    I believe with various reshufflings before and after the Next Gen Seats were introduced the story might have changed -- for Model S. I haven't been following the Model X on this front to know how it's progressed.
     
  6. ItsNotAboutTheMoney

    ItsNotAboutTheMoney Well-Known Member

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    Maybe you should try them will a different bun.

    I think I'll just wait for the reveal, since the OP didn't say "disgruntled insider".
     
  7. S'toon

    S'toon Knows where his towel is

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    Yeah, kind of messed up what I was trying to say, didn't I? I just don't like the feel of leather.
     
  8. esk8mw

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    Leaving cost and conscious-based objections (e.g., vegan) aside, just like anything else, leather seats are preferred by more people because it is a natural, premium product that looks and feels better than textiles. If they cost the exact same, would you prefer

    - formica countertops or marble? Formica performs better, doesn't stain, less maintenance.
    - vinyl floors or hardwood/stone? Vinyl would age better and require less maintenance
    - plastic kitchen cabinets or wood? I bet plastic would last longer, not fade and warp, etc.
    - synthetic sweater or cashmere? Synthetic is a lot easier to maintain
    - dress shoes with rubber soles or leather soles? Rubber performs far better in adverse conditions and wears longer

    And so on. The most durable or longest-lasting product is most often not the one demanding a premium price. Rather than all these arguments about durability and so forth, I think many here truly feel that the upcharge for leather seats is not worth it and that's a perfectly valid viewpoint. If leather-wrapped everything (seats, dash, door inserts, armrest, etc.) was standard and cloth/synthetic seats/dash/doors was a no-cost option I guarantee the take rate would not approach 5%.
     
  9. 1208

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    - Quartz :biggrin:
     
  10. int32_t

    int32_t Tesla Spotter

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    +1. I guess we here on TMC are a bunch of common-sense sort of folks! :biggrin:
     
  11. S3XY

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    #51 S3XY, Feb 29, 2016
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    I thought that IAA concept car was sweet. The extending tail looked cool and was functional by reducing drag. But the added cost and complexity won't make it into the M3. At least not the first gen.

     
  12. brianman

    brianman Burrito Founder

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    With a built-in clock?
     
  13. Cattledog

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    #53 Cattledog, Feb 29, 2016
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    That thing is actually pretty bad-ass. However, Mercedes was caught fudging Cd on a car a couple years ago, so must be taken with a dose of salt. But the wheels and tail extender are cool.
     
  14. GoTslaGo

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    Thought the automatic aero wheels was pretty cool.
     
  15. Model ☰

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    Lets not confuse common-sense and personal-preference. :)
     
  16. neroden

    neroden Model S Owner and Frustrated Tesla Fan

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    I get leather seats due to my polyester allergy. That may be an unusual reason, but it's very important to some of us to have the option of something we're not allergic to...

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    That's because they're polyester. So completely on the no-no list for me.

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    Ceramic tile.
    Ceramic tile. The ones from ancient Roman villas are still intact with no maintenance.
    Metal. Actually, plastic warps and breaks if you move it too often.
    Polyester, which I'm allergic to, or cashmere, which I'm not allergic to? Cashmere. (Nylon is rarely used for sweaters.)
    Yes, rubber soles.

    I'm just pointing out that the practicalities sometimes point in directions you might not think.

    The most durable product is often obscure enough that people don't even consider it -- notice that your either-ors were missing the best option in several cases -- but it typically does command a premium price.

    My favorite chairs at home are actually hardwood, but I don't think an unpadded hardwood seat has been offered as an option in a car since the 1920s.
     
  17. aarons23

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    Was just on the phone with Solar City and the consultant stated they received an early preview of the Model 3. I asked him if they saw pictures and he said yes, it looks like a smaller Model S. This is just another good source for the Model 3 and backs up your sources claim.
     
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    I'd be extremely happy with this. While I trust Tesla to design an amazing looking car no matter what, I love the way the S looks, so a smaller version is fine with me!
     
  19. int32_t

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    Great first post! Jumping right into the fray. :tongue: Welcome to the club. :smile:
     
  20. Model ☰

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    Thanks. Not sure if I would get flamed for saying that. The force is strong on both sides of this matter.

    I have a special needs son so being practical means stain / spill resistant. Vinyl would work. But given the reasonable options, practical means pleather/leatherette (like the cheaper Audi's & VWs) or leather for me. And the luxury style perforated leather is not ideal either. Case in point: we have some 5 year old Ethan Allen dining room chairs with fabric seats that are ready to be re-upholstered and some 8 year old HW Home leather stools at the island which can be wiped down and look as good as new.

    When I bought my first hybrid 9 years ago I evaluated the Civic including cost of doing aftermarket leather against the Prius Touring. I ended up with the Prius, even though it had perforated leather. Fortunately no major accidents in the Prius before another kid got it as hand-me-down.

    i almost leased an i3 last December, and would only consider the i3 Tera model for the same reason but am now holding out now for a Model 3. Planning on driving to the closest Tesla store on the 31st to put down a deposit. I will be surprised if they don't have the option for fabric or leather. As a shareholder, there is no reason for Tesla not to monetize this option. I do hope that those that want an higher optioned model 3 and do not want leather have the option to order one that way. Tesla will most likely not have information on any optioning come the 31st.
     

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