Please tell me what a 2013 P85 with a new battery is worth compared to one with an original battery. I'd love to see the market data on which you base your disagreement. I don't see any difference in pricing in my local market based on the age of the battery. Do you? And you are splitting hairs with my statement. The point everyone should be agreeing on is that the cost of battery replacement is too high and Tesla has not done enough to bring those costs down. All the people buying M3/Y are doing so without any concern for the downstream cost of replacing the battery pack. How many of them even know the cost? Fanboys don't care, it seems.