So… Highland is out…

[Artiste]

Point for me is people have been saying no stalks in the UK will not work. It will put people off buying the car (along with no USS and the rest).

Tesla don't take in any contructive criticism. They don't care, so we might aswell just bang our heads against the wall in my opinion.

Except it isn’t constructive criticism, it’s delusional moaning. Sycophantic hero worship, on the other hand, is perfectly acceptable

 

[bkp_duke]

Point for me is people have been saying no stalks in the UK will not work. It will put people off buying the car (along with no USS and the rest).

Tesla don't take in any contructive criticism. They don't care, so we might aswell just bang our heads against the wall in my opinion.

Not true. People didn't like the Yoke, and the wheel made a strong comeback for the S/X because of that.

 

[Drew57]

Point for me is people have been saying no stalks in the UK will not work. It will put people off buying the car (along with no USS and the rest).

Tesla don't take in any contructive criticism. They don't care, so we might aswell just bang our heads against the wall in my opinion.

The new indicator controls are already working very well. They indicate just how important we drivers are to Tesla.

 

[drtimhill]

Point for me is people have been saying no stalks in the UK will not work. It will put people off buying the car (along with no USS and the rest).

Tesla don't take in any contructive criticism. They don't care, so we might aswell just bang our heads against the wall in my opinion.

Actually they do, just rather more slowly than many might want. Examples include the various fixes to the (not very good) V11 UI software update (from about 18 months ago) and adding back the regular steering wheel on the model S.

 

[WllXM]

I believe Tesla could have developed a marvel of stalkless engineering by, first, putting the indicators on each side of the wheel,, and then, using a gyro to dynamically change the left/right orientation whenever the wheel/yoke is upside-down.

Everybody would have wowed at that. Of course, die hard stalk fans would say that the way we have used stalks to indicate for almost a century did not need a change, and well, they wouldn't be wrong...
But instead Tesla with no effort or foresight decided to place the left/right arrows on the same side on a confusing manner... well at least they'll find no one to support them, except for Americans and BMW drivers... oh well....

 

[Leejmoff]

Not true. People didn't like the Yoke, and the wheel made a strong comeback for the S/X because of that.

They still use the Yoke don't they? Never added it to a 3 or Y from what I remember.

 

[bkp_duke]

They still use the Yoke don't they? Never added it to a 3 or Y from what I remember.

Wheel is default on S/X now, Yoke is an additional cost (no joke).

 

[bkp_duke]

I believe Tesla could have developed a marvel of stalkless engineering by, first, putting the indicators on each side of the wheel,, and then, using a gyro to dynamically change the left/right orientation whenever the wheel/yoke is upside-down.

Everybody would have wowed at that. Of course, die hard stalk fans would say that the way we have used stalks to indicate for almost a century did not need a change, and well, they wouldn't be wrong...
But instead Tesla with no effort or foresight decided to place the left/right arrows on the same side on a confusing manner... well at least they'll find no one to support them, except for Americans and BMW drivers... oh well....

Or simply drive by wire, with an adjusting turn degree by speed. Would have been a more elegant solution.

 

[WannabeOwner]

if I had only waited a little longer before pulling the trigger

You'd be awaiting forever ...

Buy the car and start enjoying it

Very glad I did that starting in 2015.

Thanks VW, if it hadn't been for you shafting me over DieselGate I would not have known that EVs existed that could go 250 miles and went like sh1t out of a Goose!

 

[asl3312]

Wheel is default on S/X now, Yoke is an additional cost (no joke).

The yoke option is now $1000

 

[Bouba]

You'd be awaiting forever ...

Buy the car and start enjoying it

Very glad I did that starting in 2015.

Thanks VW, if it hadn't been for you shafting me over DieselGate I would not have known that EVs existed that could go 250 miles and went like sh1t out of a Goose!

Yes I absolutely agree...I’ve had two years with my Tesla and still enjoy it every day

 

[Mrklaw]

use the existing cabin camera to monitor the users' hands and let them make indicator gestures which are analysed by computer to estimate the direction they think the user wants to go.

 

[Mrklaw]

if I had only waited a little longer before pulling the trigger

triggers are being removed and replaced with a button marked 'fire'

 

[Bouba]

use the existing cabin camera to monitor the users' hands and let them make indicator gestures which are analysed by computer to estimate the direction they think the user wants to go.

How about lowering the cabin camera so it doesn’t keep focusing on my bald patch

 

[FastLaneJB]

Point for me is people have been saying no stalks in the UK will not work. It will put people off buying the car (along with no USS and the rest).

Tesla don't take in any contructive criticism. They don't care, so we might aswell just bang our heads against the wall in my opinion.

I don’t like this either but frankly I’d overlook that for a Plaid Model 3. I’m going to be in a hedge long before anyone needs to know if its the left hedge or the right hedge I might be going into

 

[drtimhill]

I believe Tesla could have developed a marvel of stalkless engineering by, first, putting the indicators on each side of the wheel,, and then, using a gyro to dynamically change the left/right orientation whenever the wheel/yoke is upside-down.

Everybody would have wowed at that. Of course, die hard stalk fans would say that the way we have used stalks to indicate for almost a century did not need a change, and well, they wouldn't be wrong...
But instead Tesla with no effort or foresight decided to place the left/right arrows on the same side on a confusing manner... well at least they'll find no one to support them, except for Americans and BMW drivers... oh well....

I see no reason why it could not be a tap or double tap on the wheel circumference which you could do without taking your hand off the wheel at all .. left/right half of wheel chooses direction REGARDLESS of the wheel turn position and rotation angle.

 

[pdk42]

I see no reason why it could not be a tap or double tap on the wheel circumference which you could do without taking your hand off the wheel at all .. left/right half of wheel chooses direction REGARDLESS of the wheel turn position and rotation angle.

Or they could just fit a $10 stalk.

 

[rincewind]

I'm a little more concerned with the removal of the ability to do a single wipe by pressing the stalk, which I use, quite a lot (due to, let's be honest, still rather crap auto wipers) - or have I missed something?

 

[EVMeister]

I'm a little more concerned with the removal of the ability to do a single wipe by pressing the stalk, which I use, quite a lot (due to, let's be honest, still rather crap auto wipers) - or have I missed something?

See page 74 of the manual (https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_eu/Owners_Manual.pdf ). There's a dedicated button for the wipers on the steering wheel.

 

[randompixel]

Tesla UK sending out emails this morning about ordering a Highland. They say order online and send them the RN number. Prices will be the same.