I am so fed up and bored with the phantom breaking and harsh slow downs of TACC & AP to the point that most of the time (especially when I have my wife and kids in the car) I turn it off and drive properly. I can understand programming this stuff can be tricky for difficult or unknown situations but going down a motorway with not much around it still wants to cause concern and make me look like a dangerous driver. It better improve soon or I am out. My wife’s 2008 Audi Q7 cruise control is so nice to use, nicely slows down and keeps to the distance set, none of this crap of having to take over to prevent rear ending etc etc
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Odd how the same car can act so differently for different owners.
I got .02 on my 2016 AP2.0 this morning and did a bit of driving and so far its been great. Biggest improvement Im seeing is actually in the torque sensitivity of the steering wheel and nags - non existent on my driving today. Also no phantom breaking, nothing out of the ordinary. Red light warning also working great, very dependable in all my tests since the feature came out.
I got .02 on my 2016 AP2.0 this morning and did a bit of driving and so far its been great. Biggest improvement Im seeing is actually in the torque sensitivity of the steering wheel and nags - non existent on my driving today. Also no phantom breaking, nothing out of the ordinary. Red light warning also working great, very dependable in all my tests since the feature came out.
Not trying to offtrack this thread but OTA is a double edge sword with Tesla, what was working perfectly fine ends up broken with next update (v9, folding mirrors, phantom braking etc.), Charging is the only thing Tesla has but others are catching up soon.
MTOman
Member
That's the same thing people told me when I bought my first Tesla five years ago. I'll believe others are catching up when I see it
I too am fed up with these 2 same issues. It has been ongoing for me since 2019.5.15. Before that it was "silky smooth".
The worse examples are when vehicles enter the freeway on an entry lane to my right, the car brakes hard. Also when a car gets in front of me in my travel lane, far in front of me, so far that it makes no sense braking.
I do not know about 5 years ago as I was not even an owner or followed Tesla. All I know is some meaningful competition is coming and charging network is ever expanding (electrify america).That's the same thing people told me when I bought my first Tesla five years ago. I'll believe others are catching up when I see it
I seem to remember the best was somewhere around 2018.12 . Phantom braking started appearing before V9 dropped and it got a lot worse after that and has never recovered. Some of the earlier 2019 releases my wife demanded I turn it off. It's only 'bad' now, not 'terrible' as it was earlier on, but it's still a long way from the very smooth previous NN releases when the side cameras weren't in use. Unfortunately since cars have driven into flat bed trucks and so on with inattentive drivers, and uber's full self drive killed a woman because they were trying to fix their version of phantom braking, it's here to stay for a long time yet.
Phantom braking will get a lot worse before it gets better
plumazul
Member
bhakan
MSLR MSM/Blk/19/FSD, Ord 6/10/21, Del 2/20/22
Just got 2019.20.4.1 Added Beach Buggy Racing 2 . See the release notes and the pics. Yes, not a bug but "beach buggy"
Many of us didn't even get that version. I recall going from 2018.50.x to 2019.12.x
fauquemont
Member
Does beach bugger racer work on mcu1 or only on 2?
It’s frustrating to still not have an upgrade path.
It’s frustrating to still not have an upgrade path.
Looks like we may have it quickly. Got the TeslaFi email a little while ago and already over 100 copies installed. Seems like they want the game out there!
Only on MCU 2, usual story, CPU can’t take it, etc.
MCU Upgrade? At this point, I’m beginning to think will never happen.
BrownOuttaSpec
Active Member
Just got 2019.20.2.1 pushed and installed to my 2016 90D AP1 MCU1 (I have "advanced updates" selected) . At least us with the old clunkers are still getting updates, probably just a version upgrade with no changes to placate us so we think we are still relevant.
Cool, I didn't realize this was rolled out in HW2.0 cars yet. Can't wait to test this out.
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