That makes sense. Not knowing the exact layout in relation to the mall makes it seem silly to have spaces that provide no benefit with that designation but from what your saying, I can see the potential benefit so it is a good thing. Most pictures don't really make it clear about the relationship to the surrounding property. Thanks for responding.
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Supercharger - Carlsbad, CA (7710 El Camino Real, LIVE 27 Sep 2018, 26 urban stalls)
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SC’s have got to be the largest ROI item for Power Companies, hands down. Biggest bang for their buck, I’d bet.
Was told it was still gonna be a while ‘til it goes live, but the guy who told me this seems to be involved in the landscaping and not the construction part if it.
SDRick
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I just took a look at the upper lot and the striping is in! The second picture shows a close-up of the signs. Under the Tesla logo it states 30 minute general parking. Not exactly sure what that means. Also the condition of the wall looks pretty flaky if you know what I mean.
I think handicap parking gets blue stripes, so these probably won't be that. They might still get the "use last" signage that some other superchargers have, but that will be meaningless when the station becomes full.
Do all the spaces say that, or just some? It's common to have a portion of the stalls signed for general parking, while the rest are exclusively for charging. I imagine it's either something the landlord wanted or needed to satisfy parking code. (Businesses are usually required to have a certain number of parking spaces, and maybe charging-exclusive spaces don't count.)
SDRick
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All the signs on that wall had the 30 minute language. I think you are correct in that the landlord needed it for code. Unless the lower lot is very full, I can't see people going up there to park in a non EV.
I have seen that sign text at other Superchargers. It typically means that any car can park in that stall for up to 30 minutes before they have to move.
It’s not Tesla that is specifying that sign text, it’s the owner of the parking lot. Tesla doesn’t own the Supercharger stall spaces.
NathanielHrnblwr
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SDRick
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Good point. In fact it is worse than vacant, much of it being in the middle of demolition\remodel. No parking shortage for a while.
NathanielHrnblwr
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It has been a while since I've been there, but isn't there a starbucks in the vons, or did the vons close too?
It has indeed been quite a while! There is no more Vons, it got turned into a gym. I suspect the ongoing makeover will attract new shops.
The 30-minute sign is only on the spaces on that side of the lot. I took the picture below back on 8/21. The other side is designed for the cars to pull in forward and has the standard Tesla "vehicle charging only" signage. It's a little scary looking, the chargers look vulnerable.
This lot is pretty inconvenient for people patronizing the gym or whatever future businesses move in. With the additional time limit on top, they've made every effort to discourage general parking. Plus there were over 50 spaces in the lot before the construction. Has anyone noticed if they resurfaced the back part of the lot beyond the chargers?
I would be surprised if any ICE cars or for that matter even non-charging EVs were ever towed or ticketed for exceeding the 30 minutes without charging. Seems most businesses don't want to have any problems with a customer whether or not they are inconveniencing other customers or not. Has anyone here ever heard of that 30 minute rule being enforced?
JohnnyLounge21
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This supercharger is going to be absolutely obliterated by locals when it opens and will only get worse in the years ahead. As much as Qualcomm takes a beating, this one will probably out-draw it within a very short period. It's not lost on me that bellyaching at a 20-bay supercharger coming online can be construed as entitled/spoiled. But so much more is needed in this region (hopefully those 6 extra bays get tacked on quickly, but I'm certainly not holding my breath). The resources were certainly there (the extremely lightly-used 40-bay Baker location) and they were not applied to where they were needed the most (San Diego County).
For me personally, it's a non-issue. But it makes me sad for the road trippers through my town. You simply can't plan a somewhat convenient road trip and have a low SOC through North County San Diego. At least there's Downtown/A-St., I guess.
Whine! Whine! Whine!
For me personally, it's a non-issue. But it makes me sad for the road trippers through my town. You simply can't plan a somewhat convenient road trip and have a low SOC through North County San Diego. At least there's Downtown/A-St., I guess.
Whine! Whine! Whine!
First, it is not legal in California to tow a vehicle, unless there is very specific, and regulated, signage in place (minimal font size, citing actual municipal code, location of towing company, etc.).
Second, there will not be any ICEing concerns here. This location will be so crowded with Teslas, that there will be a line to get a stall. How would an ICE get in unless they 1) got there before the crowds formed (in which case, they should leave in 30 minutes anyway, so this point is moot, or 2) they wait in line for a spot to open. That is just silly.
Yes. Both by locals and travelers. This site is years overdue. The busiest travel corridor in the country, and the most Teslas, yet massively under served. Two additional 20 stall sites might help, but I fear even that will not cut it.
