SuperCharger - Denton, Tx

[snellenr]

Welcome to Tesla World of Time...:biggrin:

"Certain pins on this SuperCharger map are “forward-looking statements” that are subject to risks and uncertainties. These forward-looking statements are based on management’s current expectations, and as a result of certain risks and uncertainties, actual results may differ materially from those projected."

/needed at the bottom...

 

[redi]

"Certain pins on this SuperCharger map are “forward-looking statements” that are subject to risks and uncertainties. These forward-looking statements are based on management’s current expectations, and as a result of certain risks and uncertainties, actual results may differ materially from those projected."

/needed at the bottom...

Wouldn't it just be easier on everyone if at the bottom:

* we don't believe it is bs today, but it might be.

 

[fwgmills]

Just finished a trip to the Denton SuperCharger and came home to see that redi beat me to it, and has WAY better pictures than I do. :biggrin:
Not much has been done since redi took his pictures. The grey cabinet was all closed up and they were working on the chargers (panels were open). It's definately 6 stalls (3 charger cabinets) and judging from the distance from the supercharger stalls to the surrounding businesses I highly doubt that any of them will be labeled as handicap spaces even though the spaces might be a little larger than standard spaces. I have seen pictures of other supercharger stalls in other states that were also labeled as handicap spaces but those are usually much closer to a particular business' front entrance. The Denton spaces are a fair walk to any of the closest businesses.

Edited to add: I might as well include this. A picture of the backs of the chargers open while they wire them up.

 

[Chris TX]

Those coolant motors are the same ones use in the car

 

[reddy]

FWIW, here is what the building permit in Amarillo had on it.

....in a wood fence enclosure‎. ‎One of the charging stations ‎(‎parking space‎) ‎is required to be handicapped accessible with signage‎.

Not sure if handicapped accessible means it is a wider than average spot that anyone can use, or if that means it has the Blue/White wheelchair handicapped logo on it that restricts parking. We should know soon.

Bollar is 100% correct, you will be ticketed if you park without proper accessibility signage on your vehicle.
ADA is Federal LAW, mandated and enforced at State and Local Levels as TAS (Texas Accessibility Standards).

I don't know if staying with your car is the correct tact.
Better to not try it and not find out if somebody is having a bad day or not.

 

[purplewalt]

Not sure if handicapped accessible means it is a wider than average spot that anyone can use, or if that means it has the Blue/White wheelchair handicapped logo on it that restricts parking. We should know soon.

Since you asked:
Accessible parking spaces are 5'-0" wider (minimum) than standard parking spaces, and NO, it is not to be used by anyone who does not have either a Blue or Red Placard or Disabled Person License plate (or exceptions noted below).

Texas has reciprocity with foreign or out-of state parking placards or license plates. Texans can also [use] their placards or license plates to park in all other states as well.


With the exception of:
Owners of Vehicles displaying:
* Disabled Veteran
* Congressional Medal of Honor
* Former Prisoner of War
* Pearl Harbor Survivor
* Purple Heart Recipient
* Legion of Valor (Air Force Cross, Distinguished Service Cross, Army Distinguished Service Cross, Navy Cross or Medal of Honor) or
* Legion of Merit License Plates

Texas law allows parking placards to be removed and displayed in any vehicle used for transportation of a person with disability. People with disabilities can apply for placards even if they do not own a car.

It is a Violation of Texas Law:

** To park a vehicle in an accessible parking space without displaying the appropriate plate or placard, even if a driver or a passenger of the vehicle has a disability;
** To park a vehicle in and accessible space when neither the driver or any passenger has a disability, even if the vehicle displays the appropriate plate or placard;
** To park a vehicle with a placard or plate that is expired;
** To park a vehicle with a placard or plate that belongs to someone who is not a driver or a passenger in the vehicle;
** To lend a parking placard to an individual without a disability who uses that placard to violate state law;
** To steal or counterfeit a parking placard or license plate;
** To park a car in such a way that it blocks access to an accessible parking space, and access aisle, or any architectural improvement that provides access for people with disabilities, such as a ramp or a curb cut.

Violations of Accessible Parking in Texas:

People who park in accessible parking spaces or who misuse Disabled Parking Placards or License Plates are subject to fines of up to $2,500 and or/up to 50 hours of community service.
Accordingly, parking a vehicle so as to block any disabled parking van-access aisle is an offense.

A minimum number of accessible parking spaces must be provided, consistent with a chart.

Most of the above is right out of:

http://gov.texas.gov/files/disabilities/accessible_parking_fast_facts.pdf

 

[Chris TX]

...
With the exception of:
Owners of Vehicles displaying:
* Disabled Veteran
* Congressional Meal of Honor
* Former Prisoner of Was
* Pearl Harbor Survivor
* Purple Heart Recipient
* Legion of Valor (Air Force Cross, Distinguished Service Cross, Army Distinguished Service Cross, Navy Cross or Medal of Honor) or
* Legion of Merit License Plates
...

I wonder what's for dinner?

 

[AlbertOnMars]

A friend stopped by the Denton Supercharger last night and took some photos. He was hoping to get a shot ICEing one of the stalls, but wasn't able to do so since the stalls are still blocked off. Doesn't look like this SC will be finished when I roll through next week.

 

[redi]

Looks like they might be expecting a rain delay.

 

[GlennSapien]

After taking a closer look these will not be the SCs with thin liquid cooled cables.

 

[TexasEV]

After taking a closer look these will not be the SCs with thin liquid cooled cables.

No, those are still being tested at Mountain View, not deployed anywhere yet.

 

[jrreno]

But it does look like there is a transformer in place.

I take that back, close inspection shows another transformer pad to the left of the cabinets and no transformer yet!

 

[AlbertOnMars]

No, those are still being tested at Mountain View, not deployed anywhere yet.

I used those yesterday at Mountain View, and they are pretty thin compared to the regular SC cables. Also, that's a pretty busy Supercharger, and it has twelve stalls!

 

[taurusking]

Looks like rain will definitely delay Denton supercharger work ...Rain till next Wednesday

 

[purplewalt]

Looks like rain will definitely delay Denton supercharger work ...Rain till next Wednesday

From the looks of the rest of the buildings and structures (trash dumpsters/telephone equipment pods, etc.) in the immediate vicinity, the Supercharger equipment enclosure will be CMU block walls with stone veneer.
Unless the Contractors put up some sort of temporary tent/awning, it is really hard to lay-up CMU blocks in heavy down-pours.
Thus: I really doubt they will make the Oct. 30 or Nov. 1 opening.

Sorry AlbertOnMars, IMO it is highly unlikely that Denton will be up and running next week, due to weather delays.

But we seriously do need the rain...

 

[jrreno]

From the SpC construction last winter in Syracuse NY:

 

[SW2Fiddler]

(unless I'm just wrong) The contractor would have to make the choice of taking the tent rental out of their contract amount, like when at times the sod or landscaping costs more than they projected when bid. Both situations caused by weather!

 

[purplewalt]

From the SpC construction last winter in Syracuse NY:
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The Contractors probably included that in their bid to have the tents and the salamanders (portable heaters) @ Syracuse due to the time of year so they could continue working in a heated/more temperate environment.
Similar strategy to Macedonia, OH during the previous winter 2013/1014, opened Jan., 15, 2014.

One just can't lay brick in heavy rain or freezing cold weather without additional measures, and that costs money.
Or adds time to the schedule.

 

[smartypnz]

Since you asked:
Accessible parking spaces are 5'-0" wider (minimum) than standard parking spaces, and NO, it is not to be used by anyone who does not have either a Blue or Red Placard or Disabled Person License plate (or exceptions noted below).

Texas has reciprocity with foreign or out-of state parking placards or license plates. Texans can also [use] their placards or license plates to park in all other states as well.


With the exception of:
Owners of Vehicles displaying:
* Disabled Veteran
* Congressional Medal of Honor
* Former Prisoner of War
* Pearl Harbor Survivor
* Purple Heart Recipient
* Legion of Valor (Air Force Cross, Distinguished Service Cross, Army Distinguished Service Cross, Navy Cross or Medal of Honor) or
* Legion of Merit License Plates

Texas law allows parking placards to be removed and displayed in any vehicle used for transportation of a person with disability. People with disabilities can apply for placards even if they do not own a car.

It is a Violation of Texas Law:

** To park a vehicle in an accessible parking space without displaying the appropriate plate or placard, even if a driver or a passenger of the vehicle has a disability;
** To park a vehicle in and accessible space when neither the driver or any passenger has a disability, even if the vehicle displays the appropriate plate or placard;
** To park a vehicle with a placard or plate that is expired;
** To park a vehicle with a placard or plate that belongs to someone who is not a driver or a passenger in the vehicle;
** To lend a parking placard to an individual without a disability who uses that placard to violate state law;
** To steal or counterfeit a parking placard or license plate;
** To park a car in such a way that it blocks access to an accessible parking space, and access aisle, or any architectural improvement that provides access for people with disabilities, such as a ramp or a curb cut.

Violations of Accessible Parking in Texas:

People who park in accessible parking spaces or who misuse Disabled Parking Placards or License Plates are subject to fines of up to $2,500 and or/up to 50 hours of community service.
Accordingly, parking a vehicle so as to block any disabled parking van-access aisle is an offense.

A minimum number of accessible parking spaces must be provided, consistent with a chart.

Most of the above is right out of:

http://gov.texas.gov/files/disabilities/accessible_parking_fast_facts.pdf

I would argue in court that these are not parking spaces.

 

[purplewalt]

I would argue in court that these are not parking spaces.

You will still probably be at least $250 lighter in the wallet after your discourse in court.
Or they might just tow your car, and then have that sort of agony to endure.
There is such a thing as the "Greater Good", and Accessibility Rights trump almost any other thing you may want to bring to the Court's attention.

Traffic Courts in Texas are pretty cut-and-dried sort of affairs, and rarely does one leave feeling fully vindicated.